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WiccChick
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posted 07-29-103 06:02 PM
  
how's it going everyone ^_^i just had a quick question... i've been doing alot of reading and research on the way animals are treated in farms and places where they are raised for food, and have been deeply disturbed with much of my findings. though i don't think there is anything wrong with eating meat, i do feel that the animal which is being used should be respected (as it is a living being and one of diety's magnificent creations) and should be treated accordingly during the time of it's life. i eat very little meat and dairy as it is, but due to my findings, i have decided to give up eating all dairy and meat which comes from farms which abuse their animals by keeping them locked in pens constantly, etc. the problem is, i'm not sure which product names use these methods and which don't....does anyone know where i could go about finding this information? thanks a bunch! ^_^ love and light,
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Jojoba
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posted 07-31-103 02:10 PM
I don't really think it is possible to avoid the suffering the animals go through right before they die.
I am a vegan and would suggest that you try going vegetarian.
However, if you can't or don't want to do that, i have *heard* that animals are treated better on organic farms. You'd have to use your own judgement as to whether that is true or not. You can get organic meat and dairy products at natural food stores, and sometimes at your regular grocery store. |
pied piper
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posted 08-12-103 08:03 AM
I suppose organic meat comes from animals treated better during their lives, but killing them is still awful. Being an English major, I can't help connecting everything to one novel or another, and there's a scene in Thomas Hardy's Jude the Obscure that everyone who cares about animals but still eats meat should read (it's about 100 pages in -- book itself is not about food politics). Jude and his wife have to kill a pig. The pig has had a pretty good, "organic" life so far, but when he realizes that Jude is about to kill him, a look of sheer, helpless terror comes into his eyes. Jude feels horrible, like a betrayer, because he suddenly realizes the pig trusted him and relied on him for care. To make a long story short, Jude and his wife have a big fight over whether to kill the pig and then how to kill it, and their differences wind up ending their marriage. The scene seems to show the difference between a vegetarian perspective (making animals suffer is awful whatever the reason) and a typical meat eater's perspective (they're jsut food -- ultimately doesn't matter if they suffer a little), and the novel seems to suggest that these two perspectives and all of their implications cannot harmoniously coexist in a marriage. Do you think they can? In a single person?I guess my point is just that animals suffer when we kill them, whether they are organic or not, and since there are so many other things to eat, like jojoba said, why not just be vegetarian? [This message has been edited by pied piper (edited 08-12-103).] [This message has been edited by pied piper (edited 08-12-103).] |
sabbath_hawks
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posted 01-18-104 12:40 PM
WiccChick i have been feeling the same way that you have. I do not fell that consuming flesh is wrong it is nature, but I do think that animals should be treated humanely. Yes they do suffer a bit before they die but so does the antelope that is killed by a lion(This is not an invitation for anyone to tell me how evil I am. I expect to be respected for my opinions and I already realize there are many who disagree with me). I have recently thought about going partially vegitarian by only eating meat that comes from organic farms or doing my own hunting. Let me know how your research and new eating habits are going for you wicchick.
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Rakas Rain
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posted 04-08-104 05:38 AM
Whole foods has free range beef, and i belive allt he other meat that they have is free range too. I could be wrong. I do think that if the animal was killed that thats plenty of sufferying, and a just reson not to eat it, but its much better to eat free range meat. |
Kickapoo Princess
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posted 07-18-104 01:26 AM
Organic valley is a great farm that doesnt use cruel things
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sabbath_hawks
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posted 09-07-104 08:16 PM
It has been a while since my last post and I have since decided that meat isn't for me! I truely love being vegetarian it has given me peace of mind and a trimer waistline. what could be wrong with that? |
iLoveCheeseburgers
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posted 09-29-104 09:15 AM
Seriously guys, are you really whinning about animal cruelty? I mean, i respect that because they are creations of God, we should not treat them poorly. But are we going to trade industry, economic progress, and American ingenuity for the "feelings" of a cow while it is still living here on earth? Personally, i dont give a thought to how a cow feels before I bite into a thick juicy double-cheeseburger. Also, there are muchhh more worthy causes out there. Have you seen the suffering in the Sudan? Are you aware of the hardships across asia? What about the poor living in desperate poverty here in America? I can't bring myself to care what happens to a cow during its miserably short and inconsequential life span here on earth when such atrocities are being committed agains humans. but thats just me... |
adiUT
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posted 10-06-104 03:28 PM
I just stumbled onto this website and I have to comment on cheeseburgers' post. True that the world is full of devastation, but equally true that, as intellectual creatures, humans are capable of making an impact across a wide array of issues. Therefore, because we chose to not eat meat and have genuine concerns about animal rights, or lack thereof, does not mean we are rendered incapable of caring or furthering positive progress regarding human devastation and hardship as well.
It is dangerously small-minded to think that each individual is unable to have an effect on more than one issue. I like to think I am more empowered than you believe yourself to be and hope you are able to widen your perspective before you waste any more time selling yourself short. |
monip1
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posted 11-03-104 08:27 AM
Just to add a little comment to the really idiotic comment made by the ilovecheesburgers person. No one here ever said that they didn't care about other issues going on in the world but if you would TAKE NOTICE, the forum topic is vegetarian Recipes and dairy farms. I am sure if you went to another topic, you would see people discussing Sudan, Asia, and poverty here in America. However, I would like to think that most people feel compassion for all living things and not just humans. You know, since we are not the only creatures that matter on this planet. Although, many would like to think so. It's really comforting to know that at least not everyone thinks the way that you do. If no one thought about the senseless suffering of animals, just think what conditions for those poor animals would be like. | |
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