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Obbop
04-22-2005, 09:39 PM
The elite's government FEARS you!!!!!!

Their fear is manifested in the laws they pass. Here is a law banning what MANY of the Founders wrote is a RIGHT of citizens when a government no longer represents them:

Section 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or
teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of
overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or
the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession
thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by
force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any
such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any
such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates,
sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed
matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity,
desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any
government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts
to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society,
group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the
overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or
violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any
such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes
thereof -
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by
the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five
years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in
this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for
employment by the United States or any department or agency
thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms ''organizes'' and
''organize'', with respect to any society, group, or assembly of
persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new
units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes,
and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.


The federal government is allowing MILLIONS of illegals to invade our country. Corporate America is becoming increasingly more powerful and influential. Yet, according to the government of for and by the elites YOU, a citizen, have to accept whatever the government does with NO recourse other than voting...... and there is sufficient proof that shows to me voting is worthless since the entrenched power structure ensures that the emplaced elite class can not be removed.

Several Founders specifically wrote of the people's right to abolish a government when it no longer represents them.

We are forced to live under an elite's TYRANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

toman
04-22-2005, 10:04 PM
Nobody's stopping you from raising a militia. You are also free to leave the country whenever you like. The founding fathers probably knew that our government would become corrupt, and that it would make efforts to counter the safegaurds they put in place. It's up to the people to recognize what the founding fathers had in mind, and do whatever is required to make it so. If the government is what we have a problem with in the first place, what difference does it make if they tell us we can't do anything about it?

kill hippies
04-25-2005, 06:53 AM
dude stfu wit all that good goverrment bullshyt your hippies and will never belong we only fear that you kill us all with your stench

Obbop
09-18-2010, 12:03 AM
"There's class warfare, all right, Mr. (Warren) Buffett said, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning."

forrest
09-21-2010, 12:27 PM
“I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”--- Grover Glenn Norquist

In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. --- Voltaire (1764)

Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn’t mean politics won’t take an interest in you!--- Pericles (430 B.C.)

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. --- Mark Twain (1866 )

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.--- Thomas Jefferson

“If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.”--- Mark Twain

Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress….But then I repeat myself.--- Mark Twain

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.--- George Bernard Shaw

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.--- James Bovard, Civil Libertarian

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?--- Thomas Jefferson

A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.--- Thomas Jefferson

Crochety Carpenter
09-21-2010, 08:44 PM
“I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”--- Grover Glenn Norquist

In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. --- Voltaire (1764)

Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn’t mean politics won’t take an interest in you!--- Pericles (430 B.C.)

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. --- Mark Twain (1866 )

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.--- Thomas Jefferson

“If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.”--- Mark Twain

Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress….But then I repeat myself.--- Mark Twain

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.--- George Bernard Shaw

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.--- James Bovard, Civil Libertarian

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?--- Thomas Jefferson

A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.--- Thomas Jefferson


Whoa Forrest! That post almost makes me think you get it. :D

forrest
09-24-2010, 08:25 AM
Whoa Forrest! That post almost makes me think you get it. :D

:D :D

http://www.deonandan.com/uploaded_images/Palinseerussia-775674.jpg

Obbop
09-29-2010, 07:32 AM
Oligarchy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

forrest
09-29-2010, 08:06 AM
Hegemony: is the political, economic, ideological or cultural power exerted by a dominant group over other groups, regardless of the explicit consent of the latter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemony

Obbop
10-14-2010, 10:00 AM
Obey.

Always obey authority.

Authority typically represents, directly or indirectly, the USA's elite class, corporate America and wealthy / powerful special-interest groups.

Those groups must be obeyed. You mere commoners exist to serve them.

The USA is in the midst of class war. Authority has the right, the power, the man-power and enormous bureaucracies created by the elites and their lackeys and minions to enforce their authority.

From incarceration to taking your wealth and even murdering you, authority holds immense power and you are powerless against the immense amassed wealth and power of the elite class.

Voting, especially at the federal level, is a farce. You have no choice but to obey. The elites' status quo so beneficial to the few must and will be maintained.

No matter how many mere commoners (96 percent or so of USA citizens) are harmed or murdered the elites, corporate America and those special-interest groups WILL be protected.

Just obey. You may be okay if you do.

The jack-booted thugs do make mistakes and innocents are harmed but no price is too high to maintain the status quo.

Obey.

forrest
10-16-2010, 02:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI