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WesleyWes
11-02-2005, 11:36 AM
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FEDS PROPOSE CITIZEN PATROLS

U.S. BORDER HONCHO CONSIDERS CIVILIAN VOLUNTEERS



By Mike Blair

The possibility of using civilians to assist the Border Patrol in policing both America’s northern and southern borders was offered recently, mostly as a
trial balloon, by U.S. Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Robert C. Bonner.

The proposal was immediately rejected by the Department of Homeland Security. However, Bonner indicated that the Border Patrol was considering training volunteers to create “something akin to a Border Patrol auxiliary.”

Bonner’s proposal was not met with enthusiasm by the Bush administration.
The plan came as the result of the Minutemen Project deploying 15,000 civilian volunteers to man observation posts and conduct foot and horseback patrols along the Mexican border from Texas to California and the northern border with Canada from Maine to Washington.

The Minutemen are deploying patrols in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas in the south and Idaho, Maine, Michigan, North Dakota, Vermont, Minnesota, and Washington in the north.

Bonner indicated that the Minutemen volunteers had brought considerable attention to the border crisis last April and had done so peacefully. He warned that deploying large numbers of project volunteers across several states could cause someone to get hurt if they are not properly trained.

Bonner told the House Government Reform Committee that the Border Patrol had over the years valued the support of civilians and that he wanted to “determine if there is a way to more effectively harness citizen volunteers.
“We are concerned about people getting unnecessarily hurt or killed in what can be a very dangerous and treacherous place,” Bonner said.

“It is actually as a result of seeing that there is the possibility in local border communities, and maybe even beyond, of having citizens that would be willing to volunteer to help the Border Patrol,” he said.

Prior to Bonner’s proposal the administration has been critical of the Minutemen Project, and President Bush has called them “vigilantes.”

However, the deployment of the citizen patrols last April resulted in a sharp decrease in the number of illegals crossing into the United States. This fact has forced the administration to take a closer look.

With polls showing Americans want strong border control, the Bush administration, which until now has permitted twelve million or more illegals to cross over, is apparently changing its tune.

“The problem is whether Bush is just giving lip service to increase his poll numbers,” a Minuteman volunteer in Vermont told American Free Press.

(Issue #45, November 7, 2005)


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Dead Fan
11-02-2005, 12:45 PM
I think they should open the borders. theirshould still be checks of people coming in, but illigal imigration wouldnt be a problem if imigration wasnt illigal. But if we did open the borders it should be required that the immigrants work at the same price as everybody else and pay their own way. NO WELFARE.

tlranger
11-02-2005, 05:02 PM
Heard tonight; We are going to build more fences, at the same time their finding tunnels. Don't know if its 'Signs, Signs' or 'Hogans Hero's'

Longhairedskinnywhiteboy
11-04-2005, 09:52 AM
Have you seen what's going on in France as a direct result of open boarders, no assimilation, and muslims??

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174533,00.html

Guess who's next with their open boarders, no assimilation, and muslims?

LIBRA
11-04-2005, 10:10 AM
I think they should open the borders. theirshould still be checks of people coming in, but illigal imigration wouldnt be a problem if imigration wasnt illigal. But if we did open the borders it should be required that the immigrants work at the same price as everybody else and pay their own way. NO WELFARE.


Thats crazy, no way will that happen.

I think stronger border patrol is a great thing, there enough pysco's here already we dont need anymore.

I know a few arab people who come here open stores and pay no taxes for 7 years?? I dont know if thats true and I dont have enough facts to back it up but it seems insane to me.

Longhairedskinnywhiteboy
11-04-2005, 10:22 AM
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I know a few arab people who come here open stores and pay no taxes for 7 years?? I dont know if thats true and I dont have enough facts to back it up but it seems insane to me.

I've heard the same thing.

LIBRA
11-04-2005, 10:57 AM
I've heard the same thing.


it makes sense since there are always alot of arab folk who own convienent stores and stuff, even on the simpsons!!
Id like to know more about that, and how it came about.

Longhairedskinnywhiteboy
11-04-2005, 11:31 AM
it makes sense since there are always alot of arab folk who own convienent stores and stuff, even on the simpsons!!
Id like to know more about that, and how it came about.

I think it all boils down to the belief that immigrants likely wouldn't be able to afford to start a business when they move here, so we do it for them. Gee, wouldn't it be great if it were like that for US citizens??

lishca
11-04-2005, 04:18 PM
i think we should build really tall walls on our northern and southern borders. then build a bridge from mexico to canada.

(mostly sarcastic)

yuma
11-06-2005, 09:25 PM
Does not matter to me, i am not allowed in the U.S.anymore anyway.

okiemama
11-07-2005, 05:04 AM
I don't know about anywhere else, but I know that here most of the illegals won't work for less than $10/hr (and that's under the table!), unless it is for another Hispanic. It's swinging around to being cheaper to employ actual citizens in those jobs than illegals. Weird, huh? And I have to agree with the statement that a foreign person can get a loan to start their own business (and all kinds of other perks, i.e. food stamps, etc.) far easier than someone born here. It's horribly frustrating. I am another who does not wish to see our borders just opened up and huge waves of immigrants come in legally. Of course, if we want to go with Heinlein's "make it worse" theory... :D

Dead Fan
11-07-2005, 01:50 PM
I see your points but I still think the current welfare systmes run by the government are wrong.

tlranger
11-07-2005, 08:38 PM
Still think this boarder crap - is crap, to keep us in!! And to keep us scared!! The bad people didn't beat us on 9-11, the politicans did that afterwards. Mother Nature has just been showing us how bad they're Screwing Us!! Why be scared of someone who wants to work?

Peace to good people T L Ranger

lwswhiteboy- sister is 'involved', did not say she's smart, with an Iranian. Name is Reza Shaw, as in Shaw of Iran's son, claims to pay no taxes, is waiting to reclaim thrown. Has a regular little band of fu*k ups(my opinion) that follow him around. Cannot speak English to a cop, but wheels and deals the rest of the time. ? is, when I'm taken out by them, this clown is treated like I once saw Randy Travis treated. Is this just Southern Cal, or have I been raised by savages?

Longhairedskinnywhiteboy
11-10-2005, 07:49 AM
I think they should open the borders. theirshould still be checks of people coming in, but illigal imigration wouldnt be a problem if imigration wasnt illigal. But if we did open the borders it should be required that the immigrants work at the same price as everybody else and pay their own way. NO WELFARE.

Rape wouldn't be a problem if rape were legal. Same could be said for every single law on the books. That's just stupid.

Lets see just how much coverage we get from the left wingers...

HOMELAND INSECURITY
Al-Qaida ops busted
at Mexican border?
Congresswoman drops bomb in announcing bill to halt issuance of driver's licenses to illegals
Posted: November 10, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – In announcing the introduction of legislation aimed at preventing illegal aliens from getting driver's licenses yesterday, a North Carolina Republican member of the House of Representatives casually dropped a bombshell that went over the heads of most of the media covering the event – that three members of al-Qaida were recently captured trying to enter the U.S. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47326

I saw a report on this a month ago. They've been caught smuggling even RPG's into the US.

The liberal media ignores it because they know it will cause people to demand more border protection, for which pro-illegal-immigration libs are against.

The fact that the lefty media doesn't want more border protection after reading this report is something to ponder.

They're what Stalin called "useful idiots." They know thw threat of the illegals and terrorists, but hate this country and Bush so much that they seek to undermine every attempts to make this a safer place to live.

forrest
12-26-2008, 10:13 AM
MEXICO Closes Boarders To stop The Influx Of Americans Trying To Avoid A Deep Depression

The Country of Mexico has decided to build walls and fences to keep out multitudes of people living in the United States from entering their country. Mexico is trying to avoid a mass population shift that could ruin Mexico’s economy with unwanted and undocumented workers. Economists agree that the sudden turn around at the borders can be due to higher oil prices, real estate foreclosures, credit card debt and the highest record of unemployment in history. The closure of many supermarkets and department stores due to higher gas prices and outrageous food, clothing and appliance prices has Americans in a panic. This in turn has grossly affected the unemployment and caused massive looting and rioting. Many critics blame the past presidential regime for dragging Americans through a costly and hypocritical war that the country may not be able to recover from with massive debt owed to contributing countries.

Adam Blanchard
12-26-2008, 11:35 AM
YES! Let's all immigrate to Mexico! See how they like it! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :bat:

Crochety Carpenter
12-28-2008, 02:23 AM
I think in Mexico illegal immagrants go to jail...what a concept!:D

NCW_Woodnymph
12-28-2008, 08:34 AM
Young man, what are you doing posting at 3 in the morning? Shame on you!:D

But more to the point, the problem with immigrating to Mexico is that their judicial system is totally corrupt.

Crochety Carpenter
12-29-2008, 11:58 AM
[QUOTE=NCW_Woodnymph;42834]Young man, what are you doing posting at 3 in the morning? Shame on you!:D


My kids had me up worrying. ;)

As with attitudes toward Isreal, every other country in the world can protect their borders except us.