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UnderTheRainbow
02-16-2006, 09:16 AM
Okay, first off... the story of Granny and her dog.
There's this house right across the street from us, on the corner. It's a white and blue house with a front gate, chain-link fence across the front, and the sides are fenced with wood, painted-blue wood with about a ft. or white lattice on top. Sounds like a lovely little house, eh?
The lady that lives there is an older lady, probably in her 70's or 80's. Everybody calls her Granny. She's hard into the drug business. You call almost anybody in this town to get coke, and you'll hear "Okay, I just have to stop at Granny's house". She has a dog. It's a dark brindle, looks like some kind of pit bull mix - definitely too big to be purebred. She's out in the yard fairly often, which is why Granny has the fence. Of course, she has the dog because she sells coke to dealers. Every time someone wakls by, it's garanteed, if the dog (I call her Princess Bitch) is outside, she'll come charging to the front fence, jump up and bark like a madwoman. Now, I have no problem with dogs like this, as long as they're kept on a leash in public, or in a fenced yard when they're outside at home.

Problem? She doesn't stay in the fence. It's a 6ft. fence all around, and she jumps the thing. At the wood part on the side, there are spots where she's charged and jumped forcefully enough to put her head through the lattice.
Now, Princess Bitch is only around a year and a half old. She was okay last Summer, mean and barky as ever, but she just recently figured out that she could jump the fence in the front, at parts where it's a bit flexible. I've seen her - she charges towards the fence and uses it as sort of a springboard to freedom. This also wouldn't be a problem with me, if she were escaping just to escape (my dog has done it plenty of times)... but she escapes because of people walking by, and she wants to attack them.
The first time I heard about it was when we had lived there with a roommate... she moved into our own place and he stayed there, and my fiance's brother was going to visit the old roommate. She jumped the fence and charged, then bit his arm. Lucky for him, the house is right across the street, so he was out of danger. We recently moved back into the house, right after things started going bad with our landlord and the old roommate was moving out - he moved everything out and we helped him clean up, the landlord there checked everything out, and we moved in that night. Since we've been there, I've seen her jump the fence planty of times.
The first time I saw her get out, there was a stray black dog. She jumped the fence and went after it... the dog was lucky that someone was at Granny's house and they went out and got Princess Bitch back into the fence. Later that day, I was going for a walk with my dog, Kodos, and she jumped the fence and tried to go after him. That was the day that I learned all you have to do is yell at her, and she backs off. Most people don't know that.
Fast forward to a few weeks ago. I was seriously considering reporting Princess Bitch, but she has a lot of good-dog potential, being trained to back off from anybody that yells at her (because she is a coke-house dog and all) and just being a bit over a year old. I didn't want to see her put to sleep.
One day, I was sitting in our bedroom. It has a window that faces the road. Suddenly, I heard barking, more barking... figured Princess Bitch was yapping at some innocent passer-by... then I heard even louder barking, and screaming. Of course, knowing how the dog is, and since it's a tiny town and we're close to schools and parks, my first instinct is to practically go flying out the front door. She was charging at a 10-12 year old boy. Not knowing to just yell at her, he's extremely lucky he had a skateboard, and probably even more lucky that I was home at the time. She was charging at him, back and forth, trying to bite and grab onto his arms or anything that she could. He just kept trying to block her with his skateboard, and it worked well until I got out there. I yelled at her until she ran back towards Granny's house, and someone came out and took her back inside. I went in to let Kodos inside, and then went back out to make sure the boy was okay. Poor kid... Kodos went charging out the door as soon as I opened it, and the kid sorta jumped back, but I told him it was okay, he's just a big playful puppy and he wouldn't hurt anyone. So he stood there petting and playing with Kodos, which showed that he wasn't too incredibly shaken up about Princess Bitch, and I asked if he was okay. He said she almost got ahold of his arm, but didn't do any damage. After the short conversation, and having to convince Kodos that he isn't allowed to follow strangers home (he thinks the entire world wants to be his new best friend, haha) I went in and called to report her.
The officer called me back later that night, said she was sitting right outside the house, and asked me to look out the window and make sure it was the right house - sure enough, it was. Then she continued with "The dog's outside, and I'm not going up to the house because I know she has this dog to keep people like me off of her property". She said they would keep sending her tickets and fines, and if nothing was done, they would eventually send someone in to deal with it.
This is not acceptable, to me. It wasn't just that she had escaped and ran around freely several times - she had tried to attack a few people, including a young boy.
So, I let it go. This was a few weeks ago. Fast forward to this past weekend. I was home alone, and Kodos was chained outside while I did housework (if I let him stay in, he's right under my feet constantly). I heard a lot of barking, followed by Kodos barking (yes, I know my own dog's voice). I looked out, and he was still on his chain... again, my first instinct is to go running out the front door. This time, Princess Bitch was after an older man and his yellow lab. He would turn and yell at her, and as soon as he'd turn back again, she'd charge towards them. He yelled and she ran back, got close to my house, and then turned to charge at them again. I walked out onto the road and yelled at her, enough to chase her back towards Granny's house so the man and his dog could get a safe distance away.

Now, I know within a week from now, she'll get out again. She'll probably go after someone, or a dog, or someone and their dog. Hopefully I'll be home, I'll hear the barking, possibly some yelling or screaming, and then go flying out the front door to keep Princess Bitch under control. I'm getting so sick of this.
In a tiny town with no animal control, where the cops are scared of the dog and the people she's associated with, what can you do? I don't know. I figured this would be a good place to ask (and it isn't the only place I've asked). What would you do? I've thought about calling PAWS about her, but I don't know what they would do... if you have a PAWS in your area, do you know if they'll deal with this sort of thing? I've even thought about calling Kodos's vet and asking him what we can do about it, since the cops won't do anything. It worries me SO much, because like I said, we live close to schools and parks, in a town where parents trust everyone enough to let their kids walk to and from school alone. There are kids, older folks, older folks with dogs, and even people my own age and a bit older, and I worry about all of them. I honestly wouldn't care if yelling at her didn't stop her, and I had to throw myself in her path and get hurt, to defend someone else... at least then I'd have a better report, complete with injuries to show for it, and hopefully THEN they'd do something about her. But I don't want that. What is it gonna take? A more serious attack? The dog getting hit by a vehicle? I don't know.

Any ideas on what I can do about this? I can't see small-town cops putting up much of an effort, because she listense to her owner, and the fence is required height... it looks good on paper, but it doesn't stop her from jumping the fence and trying to attack.
I guess until I figure out what I can do, I'll just hope she gets out while our old roommate is over... he has Kodos's brother, Thor, and at least I know if Princess Bitch tries to attack them, they could definitely take her down...their protective of their people, their territory (we still lived together when we got the puppies, so neither of them are territorial towards each-other, it's both of theirs) and each-other.

But, then we'd probably be the ones in trouble for having "vicious, uncontrolled animals".
UGGGGGHHHH.

LIBRA
02-16-2006, 11:40 AM
Sounds like a bad deal!

The owner should tie the dog up, even if its fenced in. That would be my only advice, it couldnt jump the fence if it was tied up to something.

that dog is gonna hurt someone!!

Good luck

toman
02-16-2006, 11:29 PM
I know this won't sound good, but honestly this isn't something to mess around with. Get someone you know with good handgun skills to get the dog to jump the fence. Pepper spray it, then shoot it. Aside from that, there's nothing anyone can do; the dog is going to hurt or kill someone. There might not be anything you can do about the woman, but you sure can do something about the dog.

treehugger
02-17-2006, 02:23 AM
I have to agree with Toman...normally I don't advocate shooting things but this sounds like it's way out of control and, like he said, a small child could get seriously maimed or killed. Bad situation all around. I can't believe the cops would even risk having that on their hands.

UnderTheRainbow
02-17-2006, 08:53 AM
I've seriously considered shooting the thing (and normally, the thought would NEVER enter my mind. ever.) because I worry about other people, and their dogs, and my own dog when he's chained outside by himself. One of my fiance's cousins saw her when she was out last time (after the older man and his dog) and he was in his truck... he was seriously about to run her down, but the fiance was with him. The problem with killing the dog is that she deals coke. Like I said, the dog is so vicious to strangers, she's about the only thing that keeps cops and such off of Granny's property... bottom line... you kill the dog, someone is more-than-likely to kill you for it. It's a tiny town and she's old, I know most people wouldn't expect it, but that's how business with drugs works in this town. Hell, I wouldn't even actually talk to Granny about the dog, she'd probably consider it a threat and have my ass kicked, hah. The only thing I know to do at this point is get police involved, but they want nothing to do with it.

If I could do it and get away with it, I'd probably attack and kill her with my bare hands... she's THAT harmless if you know how to handle her. I really don't see her much different than I see my 7 month old puppy (mind you, he's a mini-monster, so he isn't much smaller than her). I'm not scared of her, I'm scared for everyone else, and I don't want to see the consequences of someone killing the dog and having Granny or one of her dealers find out who it was.

toman
02-17-2006, 02:05 PM
Just a note: I don't mean to butt in, but I do know a good deal about dogs and dog training. Chaining your dog outside alone is one of the best ways to create an aggressive, unpredictable dog. I know a lot of people don't have other options, but something as simple as a couple of daily walks and otherwise being in a crate is a much better one. If you're interested in dogs and dog training, check out Ed Frawley's site at www.leerburg.com.

PEACE FROG
02-20-2006, 11:28 AM
send the dog some chocolates. actually I agree with tom, shoot the poor thing.

LIBRA
02-21-2006, 05:14 AM
send the dog some chocolates. actually I agree with tom, shoot the poor thing.


Chocolate doesnt bother some dogs!! Like mine!!!

He ate a whole pan of brownies once, he did throw up, but so would I if I ate that many brownies!! Special brownies no less ;)

UnderTheRainbow
02-21-2006, 08:20 AM
As for chaining my dog outside... it doesn't happen often. He gets chained out there while I do housework, because if he doesn't go outside, he's RIGHT under my feet constantly. We're planning on building a better fence in the Summer, so he won't have to be chained.

I was in a group thing with my social worker/counsellor (it's an every-week thing) and I told her about it, and she says I'm not allowed to kill the dog, haha. Though, I asked her, if I attacked it with my bare hands and called it self-defense, they wouldn't do anything, right? Then she goes "Maybe you should try to get Kodos to bite you hard enough to draw blood, and blame it on Granny's dog so they have to put her down.... oh, nevermind. Kodos would never bite anyone, anyway." Haha. I could probably do ANYTHING to that dog, and I seriously doubt he'll ever be aggressive... he's just big and cuddly.

And, chocolate is bad for dogs' hearts. Just because it doesn't make them sick right away doesn't mean they should be allowed. It's kinda like a human eating something they shouldn't, small bits at a time... it might not cause big problems now, but it will build up over time. I'd rather share rice and veggies with Kodos, and keep him around an healthy a few years longer. As for Granny's dog... it would probably take too much to kill the thing, and the fiance and I don't even eat chocolate, haha. Talk about a huge waste of money. Although, we got a lot of chocolates for Christmas and we just ended up offering them to EVERYONE that came to our house... maybe we'll get more chocolates and stuff for Easter.

She got out again yesterday. I took a peek out the window (I'm like, the window-watcher of the CENTURY, seriously, I never stop...this town's too damn pretty, haha) and this kid was walking by, across the street from a little old lady and her dog. I looked at the fence - Princess Bitch had her head sticking out through the hole that she earlier made by putting her head THROUGH the lattice. So I stood there and watched, and sure enough, she went running towards the front of the fence (the more flexible part that she jumps over) and I went running out the door. "Bark Bark" "Don't even fucking think about it." Followed by little old granny in a walker with her white furball of a dog. "Oh, thank you. Someone should do something about her, she's gonna get hurt one of these days." Yeah... let's just hope so. I got her back over to her house, and some random younger guy came out and took her inside. She really *is* friendly, if you just know to yell at her... but then, what else would you expect from a coke-house dog? Hah.

Pedata
02-21-2006, 09:50 AM
...He ate a whole pan of brownies once, he did throw up, but so would I if I ate that many brownies!! Special brownies no less ;)
Lol!! Not the "special" brownies! I wonder if he saw any imaginary cats after that?

-Cass

UnderTheRainbow
02-21-2006, 10:29 AM
Lol!! Not the "special" brownies! I wonder if he saw any imaginary cats after that?

-Cass

Haha... I can say things against dogs eating chocolate, but some animals are just meant to be stoners. My mom's cat... every time I'm at the house, if we stay the night and go out to the porch to smoke a joint or something, the little guy is RIGHT in our faces, trying to get stoned. Kodos is the same... he won't eat the stuff, but if we're smoking and he smells it (he's a dog, of course he smells it) he's right in our faces. I think he got high off of gasoline fumes in the back of Adam's cousin's truck... he has a gas can, and he drives like a maniac so it's spilled everywhere. When we got home, he started freaking out because ti was on his paws and nose, so I took him to the kitchen and scrubbed his paw pads and his nose with water and dish soap, and he stopped trying to chew his paws off, but he kept rolling around on the carpet, jumping up and barking at us, just generally freaking out... like he had been huffing gas or something, haha. It's mean, but it was kinda funny, too.

Ever been around a dog on mushrooms or acid? Oh man. One of my friends came over, and there were 4 of us in my living room tripping hard. Nobody knocks, so as soon as he opened the door, puppy came running into the living room (we had a little room at the front door for coats, shoes, etc. and that was puppy's room in that house). SO odd. We'd been tripping for a couple hours in our own little world, and suddenly there's another blue-haired human and this mysterious furry four-legged creature in the living room. Very odd indeed, haha.

angymnast247
02-25-2006, 05:23 PM
about the dog jumping over the fece...i have to say that is realy freaky. i would be constantly watching across the street too. i would say maby you could ask to add a extention to the fence, only at the place where the dog jumps over. maby granny would let you. this cant go on forever.

peace
i hope you find something that you can do about this.
~alyssa