vegetarian question

[CowboyHippy]

back 7 years ago me and a bunch of old school pals went camping and it was good, we decided to make an annual thing of it and have been doing it ever since.

every year it has been the same group, except the first year an extra guy was along, he lives out in utah and although invited every year he never shows up (even though the the guy from virginia makes it)

he showed up this year and we though cool, but it kinda sucked.
there's all kinds of stuff i could expand on which contributed to the degrading atmosphere of the weekend but here's the blunt of the question

after you have been a vegetarian for a set ammount of time (3 years) does your body stop producing the enzymes needed to digest meat.

i've got some more questions but i'll start off with that

[toman]

I don't know about the enzymes exactly, but I do know that if you eat absolutely no meat for a long time and then go eat a steak it will probably make you a little ill... but then, a person who eats nothing but meat will probably get the sonic green shits if he eats nothing but salad for a couple of days, too. It's just a matter of what your body is conditioned for, and a matter of degree at that. :cheers:

[LIBRA]

I don't know about the enzymes exactly, but I do know that if you eat absolutely no meat for a long time and then go eat a steak it will probably make you a little ill... but then, a person who eats nothing but meat will probably get the sonic green shits if he eats nothing but salad for a couple of days, too. It's just a matter of what your body is conditioned for, and a matter of degree at that. :cheers:


Lol at sonic green shit. gross, but funny

[orchid]

after you have been a vegetarian for a set ammount of time (3 years) does your body stop producing the enzymes needed to digest meat.

Cowboy,

People who follow a vegetarian diet for a long time often suffer from various nutritional deficiencies including Anemia (iron) and B-12 deficiency. These are extremely common in vegetarians and cause depleted hydrochloric acid production in the stomach.

If we have insufficient hydrochloric acid production, proteins are much harder to break down; we also have greater susceptibility to parasites and unhealthy bacteria in the digestive system- All of which can cause some severe digestive turmoil.

I hope this answers your question.

Peace,

O

[toman]

^^^ So basically if you remember to take a multi-vitamin, or are consious of what you need to eat to get all your appropriate nutrients, then it would be less likely to cause problems for a vegetarian to eat meat on the rare ocassion? (pun intended... :D )

[CowboyHippy]

^^^ So basically if you remember to take a multi-vitamin, or are consious of what you need to eat to get all your appropriate nutrients, then it would be less likely to cause problems for a vegetarian to eat meat on the rare ocassion? (pun intended... :D )

yeah, thats the other thing that gets me, he used to be a real average guy, 6 ft 190#'s that sorta thing. now he's skin and bones, and not like fit and trim, he's like christian bale in the machinist sorta skinny.

we set up a zipline through the trees (safely) and he was scared of not being able to hang on, turns out he can't do a pull up anymore. I seriously doubt that he takes any vitamins, or i would think that one would exercise a bit more. all he does is eat veggies and smoke i guess

and what the hell is houmoushummous...however its spelled.

[reen]

i think you mean hummus. its crushed chick peas. i believe since it is a sort of bean there is some protein there, but this friend of yours sounds like his body is suffering, and not getting what it needs. his digestive track is probably messed up anyway, and im sure the meat, as the others have said would just further his discomfort. but, what do i know, im big on balance in foods.

--reen

[Pedata]

There's incomplete proteins in beans. They have to be eaten with grains for the amino acids to do thier thing in order to make complete proteins.

Protein mainly repairs muscles (while you sleep) and grows hair.

Is he also losing his hair?

~Cass

[CowboyHippy]

i just flipped through the dvd of the trip
it doesnt look like he's losing hair, but back in the day he had really long hair, and now he keeps it really short, all a uniform length, there aren't a whole lot of hair shots though...not like a just for men commercial anyway.

[orchid]

:)
^^^ So basically if you remember to take a multi-vitamin, or are consious of what you need to eat to get all your appropriate nutrients, then it would be less likely to cause problems for a vegetarian to eat meat on the rare ocassion? (pun intended... :D )

:) Yes, this is definitely true. Unfortunately though, it’s not so simple as taking a 1-A-Day type multi vitamin in order to fix a severe nutritional deficiency. Often times, when our bodies are so depleted, we even lack the ability to fully break down those dense vitamin pills.

IMO, deriving vitamins through food is far superior to taking supplements (A balanced diet of organic whole and live, enzyme rich foods will usually keep a person in check), but if supplementation is necessary, liquid vitamins are the way to go… They’re much easier for our bodies to assimilate...

[orchid]

yeah, thats the other thing that gets me, he used to be a real average guy, 6 ft 190#'s that sorta thing. now he's skin and bones, and not like fit and trim, he's like christian bale in the machinist sorta skinny.

we set up a zipline through the trees (safely) and he was scared of not being able to hang on, turns out he can't do a pull up anymore. I seriously doubt that he takes any vitamins, or i would think that one would exercise a bit more. all he does is eat veggies and smoke i guess

Your friend has all the classic symptoms of a poorly nourished person- pale, weak, sick and I suspect, whiny… He should probably go see a holistic nutritionist to get back on track. There are ways to be a healthy, hardy vegetarian… It just doesn’t sound like he’s going about it properly.

[RAINFOREST MOONCLOUD]

:)

... but if supplementation is necessary, liquid vitamins are the way to go… They’re much easier for our bodies to assimilate...

Pardon my brutish, carnivorous iggerance, but if you need dietary supplements then isn't your diet inadequate for your body's requirements? Am I being a little obvious by stating that? Isn't there something fundamentally wrong with adopting an improper and deficient diet and then popping pills (or liquids) to make up the nutritional shortfall? Isn't a reliance on artificial dietary supplements a plain admission that your diet is flawed in the first place? What sort of logic is behind the decision to adopt a diet that, if not propped up by chemical gimcracks, will kill you? Got me buggered.