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jcbridges
05-25-2006, 07:27 AM
We spend 1/3 of our lives in bed. You now have a choice about how you spend all that time; on a bed made with known toxic chemicals as flame retardants or on a bed made with 100% natural, chemical and allergen free latex with certified organic cotton and wool. Helping the environment starts with helping oneself.

OrganicGauntlet
05-25-2006, 08:43 AM
My wife sleeps with Organic every night.

Heresy
05-25-2006, 09:00 AM
I'm sorry, but there is now way in hell I'm going to pay literally 100% more for a matress because its certified organic.

Show me actual empirical evidence in medical journals and what not about how this will improve my quality of life sooo much that I should go out and sink that much money into it. Do that and I'm all over it...otherwise I will dismiss it as a couple of people who had an idea and jumped on the "certified organic" bandwagon in order to make a few bucks. Do I fault them for doing so? Absolutely not, I however will not find myself on one of their products any time soon.

LIBRA
05-25-2006, 10:52 AM
Ditto



Everyone is jumping on that bandwagon and half of it isnt really organic.


And OrganicGuantlet, that was funny :p

RAINFOREST MOONCLOUD
05-25-2006, 01:08 PM
Show me actual empirical evidence in medical journals and what not about how this will improve my quality of life sooo much that I should go out and sink that much money into it ...

No need, Heresy me old boot. The empirical evidence against this bollocks is right in front of you. Since, as someone pointed out, we spend 33% of our time in the fartsack there should be a huge body of evidence supporting the theory that sleeping in an 'organic' bed leads to some sort of improvement in one's life, health, penis/breast size, ability to whistle 'The Battle Hymn of the Republic' while wearing a skin tight PVC jogging suit and juggling chainsaws, what have you. Our exposure to the item that is supposed to be slowly sapping the very life from our little pink cells is so acute, long-lasting and close that someone, somewhere would have made the link. Well, I haven't heard a bloody squeak. Not one learned article, conspiracy theory, deranged pamphlet slipped under the door, nothing - except a pretty pisspoor website designed by someone who (wait for it ... ) sells organic beds for a living. Yeah, right. Let me think about that one ...

Heresy
05-26-2006, 05:53 AM
No need, Heresy me old boot. The empirical evidence against this bollocks is right in front of you. Since, as someone pointed out, we spend 33% of our time in the fartsack there should be a huge body of evidence supporting the theory that sleeping in an 'organic' bed leads to some sort of improvement in one's life, health, penis/breast size, ability to whistle 'The Battle Hymn of the Republic' while wearing a skin tight PVC jogging suit and juggling chainsaws, what have you. Our exposure to the item that is supposed to be slowly sapping the very life from our little pink cells is so acute, long-lasting and close that someone, somewhere would have made the link. Well, I haven't heard a bloody squeak. Not one learned article, conspiracy theory, deranged pamphlet slipped under the door, nothing - except a pretty pisspoor website designed by someone who (wait for it ... ) sells organic beds for a living. Yeah, right. Let me think about that one ...


If he were sleeping on his organic bed he would DEFINITELY be able to design a better website...and that's a fact...it's science

jcbridges
06-02-2006, 08:09 AM
Well aren't you a wonderful bunch! Maybe I can clear a few things up:

1. There is increasing medical evidence that links chemicals used as flame retardents can react with mold in cases of SIDS (cot death), and just because some "governmental" authority has not found a smoking gun that does not mean someone has not been shot. How many drugs are FDA approved and then found to cause birth defects, serious health issues, cause lawsuits etc. ad nauseum. Since when did your government (whichever one that is) start taking your health and well-being as being of paramount importance??

2. As far as bandwagon goes, these products are all TRULY organic and the mission of this company is to provide healthy bedding alternatives while changing the manufacturing industry (think Patagonia).

3. We are building the new website currently. The website you see was built and designed by the owner's senior citizen mother and I think it amazing whenever someone of that age is able to embrace and use technology at any level.

4. I do my part for my health and well being and for the world around me. I am environmentally conscious and want to give my children (and yours for that matter) a better, cleaner earth than I have. My father has been in commercial real estate for 30 years and has been at the forefront of urban redevelopment, mixed use projects and is now involved in what will be the first "truly green" development in the Eastern United States. This development is using sustainable bamboo for all flooring, recycled building materials wherever possible and will produce it's own clean, sustainable energy through the use of solar panels. It includes condominiums and 70,000 square feet of retail which will be occupied by environmentally responsible tenants.

5. As far as pricing goes, these beds are no more expensive than other "memory foam" or air beds or even comparable Sealy, Simmons and Stearns and Foster beds. If spending that much on a bed is not in your budget, I completely understand that. Pure SLumber also makes organic mattress toppers for as little as $200 that will certainly help put some space btween you are the dozens of chemicals that off gas from your mattresses. Saying this doesn't have proven results is like saying why eat organic fruit? or why buy fair trade coffee? Come on folks, use a little common sense- if we were intended to ingest chemicals they would be an inherent part of the earth, but they are not!

6. I hope you have a wonderful day!

LIBRA
06-02-2006, 10:14 AM
Well thats better. An explanation always helps, thanks.

RAINFOREST MOONCLOUD
06-02-2006, 03:01 PM
We spend 2.37% of our lives on the karzi. (Despite this, half the population do not seem to understand the fact that leaving the seat up is a perfectly logical and straightforward thing to do. Hey, just bloody look before you sit down, okay? It's not difficult. Women, eh? Can't live with 'em and you're not allowed to shoot 'em.)

Did you know, however, that the very thunderbox you may now be squatting upon is made of .... chemicals? Dirty, nasty, filthy, unnatural chemicals? The bowl itself is made of porcelain, which becomes radioactive if exposed to uranium or plutonium over prolonged periods. Porcelain is known to contain chemicals such as feldspar, ball-clay, glass, bone ash, steatite, quartz, petuntse and alabaster. Authoritative surveys of the houses of heart attack victims have shown that porcelain was present in every single one of them. If that isn't a conclusive statistic, nothing is. Every single heart attack victim died in a home virtually infested with porcelain. For how long can we go on denying the evidence right there in front of us? Porcelain kills.

Oh, there's more.

Never mind the silent, creeping killer porcelain. Do you realise that the toilet seat (q.v.) is made of plastic? If you thought porcelain would eat your nads off, you have no idea. Plastics are the real bastards. The toilet seat lurking in the background of your thunderbox contains anti-oxidants and other stabilizers, compatibilizers, flame retardants, pigments, plasticisers, impact modifiers and fillers! Do you realise that the tensile strength of the plastics in your toilet seat is equivalent to 2.60 N/mm2? I bet they didn’t tell you that in dunny school!

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morningsunshine
06-03-2006, 09:33 PM
organicrapper..

haha

that's a laugh..

good one

RAINFOREST MOONCLOUD
06-04-2006, 04:27 AM
organicrapper..

haha

that's a laugh..

good one

So, you going to buy one, or what? I'm not doing this for my health, you know. Boy. Some people.

Heresy
06-05-2006, 06:00 AM
Well aren't you a wonderful bunch! Maybe I can clear a few things up:

1. There is increasing medical evidence that links chemicals used as flame retardents can react with mold in cases of SIDS (cot death), and just because some "governmental" authority has not found a smoking gun that does not mean someone has not been shot. How many drugs are FDA approved and then found to cause birth defects, serious health issues, cause lawsuits etc. ad nauseum. Since when did your government (whichever one that is) start taking your health and well-being as being of paramount importance??
What about all the chemicals in the seats of my car? So many things have been linked to SIDS, it's difficult to really lend any credibility to any of them.


2. As far as bandwagon goes, these products are all TRULY organic and the mission of this company is to provide healthy bedding alternatives while changing the manufacturing industry (think Patagonia).
Oh, ok...so making money has absolutely nothing to do with it...that's refreshing.


3. We are building the new website currently. The website you see was built and designed by the owner's senior citizen mother and I think it amazing whenever someone of that age is able to embrace and use technology at any level.
Yeah, I was just bustin their balls on this one. It's better than I could do anyways.


4. I do my part for my health and well being and for the world around me. I am environmentally conscious and want to give my children (and yours for that matter) a better, cleaner earth than I have. My father has been in commercial real estate for 30 years and has been at the forefront of urban redevelopment, mixed use projects and is now involved in what will be the first "truly green" development in the Eastern United States. This development is using sustainable bamboo for all flooring, recycled building materials wherever possible and will produce it's own clean, sustainable energy through the use of solar panels. It includes condominiums and 70,000 square feet of retail which will be occupied by environmentally responsible tenants.
Hate to be the party pooper here, but it's already too late. We've crossd the threshold. We've passed the point of no return. Too much ice has melted. The ice being white reflected a good portion of the sun's rays, the growing water mass/darker colored earth absorbs the suns rays. This makes even MORE ice melt, creating MORE darker colors to absorb MORE of the sun's rays. 3 Generations TOPS will know the world the way we do, after that all bets are off.
That said, it's a noble cause you're involved in...futile, but noble.


5. As far as pricing goes, these beds are no more expensive than other "memory foam" or air beds or even comparable Sealy, Simmons and Stearns and Foster beds. If spending that much on a bed is not in your budget, I completely understand that. Pure SLumber also makes organic mattress toppers for as little as $200 that will certainly help put some space btween you are the dozens of chemicals that off gas from your mattresses. Saying this doesn't have proven results is like saying why eat organic fruit? or why buy fair trade coffee? Come on folks, use a little common sense- if we were intended to ingest chemicals they would be an inherent part of the earth, but they are not!

what about lead...uranium...radium...oil (which is the base for many of the chemicals you're referring to), all these things are in the earth...as a matter of fact...last I knew we weren't really doing too much space mining....soo essentially everything we have, in some form or another comes from the earth...right? I mean it may be manipulated, but look at this...these devilish plastics that everyone hates so much allow people to walk, aid in the treatment of diseases, provide intubated airways, improve the quality of life for virtually everyone in the western world.

I understand, this is an alternative, and certainly a healthy alternative, but unless you don't drive a car, wash your food and dishes and clothes with only water, don't use a cell phone or sit in front of a computer, don't use heat in the winter or a/c in the summer, watch TV, and a whole host of other things...what you sleep on is kind of moot, don't you think?


6. I hope you have a wonderful day!


I hope you have a wonderful day as well, please understand, I'm not just being a dick for dick's sake here. I'm a bit of a skeptic, certainly, but I think essentially we're both right. I just don't know that my quality of life would improve that much from this product. Do you offer a 30 day no obligation trial period like some other mattress companies do?

RAINFOREST MOONCLOUD
06-05-2006, 06:32 AM
... please understand, I'm not just being a dick for dick's sake here. I'm a bit of a skeptic, certainly, but I think essentially we're both right. I just don't know that my quality of life would improve that much from this product. Do you offer a 30 day no obligation trial period like some other mattress companies do?

Could I just point out that the Organicrapper® Organic Thunderbox® comes complete with a 90 day, no-questions asked guarantee?

Heresy
06-05-2006, 06:34 AM
Could I just point out that the Organicrapper® Organic Thunderbox® comes complete with a 90 day, no-questions asked guarantee?


Sign me up...do you do city installations?

RAINFOREST MOONCLOUD
06-05-2006, 06:37 AM
Sign me up...do you do city installations?

Hmm ... let's talk expenses here. These things don't shift themselves, you know.

Heresy
06-05-2006, 07:10 AM
Could I just point out that the Organicrapper® Organic Thunderbox® comes complete with a 90 day, no-questions asked guarantee?


ok...what if I had 5 strippers in the Thunderbox, was havig sex with one while doing lines of coke off another who was felating a Shetland Pony and shearing a sheep at the same time. Then the sheep gets spooked by the girl in the gimp suit (who was lubeing up her head to be gently inserted into the bearded lady who was "busy" with the funeral director,) kicks out the ceiling, and cuts the gimp with her hoof on the way out....well we ALL know what happens then. The cut gimp starts the transformation to Beazle as per the book of Gozmuth..."Any gimp so clad in latex shall be transformed under the cleft of the ewe"...I mean that's pretty straightforward, but then during the transformation, she pops off the gimpsuit tearing a hole in the back wall, the the shetland kicks out the side wall and the Funeral director sets the door on fire....is that under the warantee?

LIBRA
06-05-2006, 07:16 AM
Freak, lol. :vomit-smi


I wouldnt warranty that shit. But thats just me.

RAINFOREST MOONCLOUD
06-05-2006, 07:32 AM
ok...what if I had 5 strippers in the Thunderbox, was havig sex with one while doing lines of coke off another who was felating a Shetland Pony and shearing a sheep at the same time. Then the sheep gets spooked by the girl in the gimp suit (who was lubeing up her head to be gently inserted into the bearded lady who was "busy" with the funeral director,) kicks out the ceiling, and cuts the gimp with her hoof on the way out....well we ALL know what happens then. The cut gimp starts the transformation to Beazle as per the book of Gozmuth..."Any gimp so clad in latex shall be transformed under the cleft of the ewe"...I mean that's pretty straightforward, but then during the transformation, she pops off the gimpsuit tearing a hole in the back wall, the the shetland kicks out the side wall and the Funeral director sets the door on fire....is that under the warantee?

Hmmm ... someone in our R and D Section has obviously been talking about the special features on the Organicrapper® Organic Thunderbox® (Mk II). I'm going to have words with Security about this. Loose Lips sink Organicrapper® Organic Thunderboxes® (MkII)!