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[musicguy]

I'm not sure what to call myself anymore. I'm not atheist because I don't nessessarily not believe in anything, and I'm not agnostic because I know i believe something,
I just don't know what to call it. I've searched all the major religions that I could come up with and nothing really fit.
any ideas?

[Unkle_John]

Well you could do a quest like I did. Go to random churches to see what you like. If you want something more of an eastern philosophy, I suggest looking at India. Or you can look at old world like myself and my wife. We believe in many aspects of different religions, so we just say we are Pagan (or if the local preacher comes around to "press the flesh", I tell them we are Church of Christ).

My views are broken down to Native American / Druid / Hindu.

I won't be concerned with trying to name yourself on what religion you are, is that it's best to have a cover story for someone who you know is narrow minded.

[musicguy]

Well it's not so much calling myself somthing it's more identifying myself with something.

[Unkle_John]

Excellent! That's the way you should approach it.

[musicguy]

I suppose pagan is a good way to go about it, it just means that you dont conform basically.
But thats still not that much to identify with, cause if you think about it, is in't everybody a pagan acording to a different religion?

[Unkle_John]

You are correct on that part.

[musicguy]

So i guess i still feel a little lost cause i dont know anyone else here like me.
**sigh**

[Yossarian]

If you tend to find truths common to a multidute of different thoughts, but don't identify with one in particular or one more so that others, this may be an interesting concept to look into:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy

[butterflyDancer]

Well you could do a quest like I did. Go to random churches to see what you like. If you want something more of an eastern philosophy, I suggest looking at India. Or you can look at old world like myself and my wife. We believe in many aspects of different religions, so we just say we are Pagan (or if the local preacher comes around to "press the flesh", I tell them we are Church of Christ).

My views are broken down to Native American / Druid / Hindu.

I won't be concerned with trying to name yourself on what religion you are, is that it's best to have a cover story for someone who you know is narrow minded.

It's so refreshing to hear that :)


i'm also a hodgepodge of different religious philosophies, but i feel more spiritual than religious most of the time.

[Unkle_John]

YAY! :D

I just don't worry about religion. I go about my daily routines and thank the creators for giving me a life full of friends and family. Even though they don't live anywhere near me, I might feel like I can never get ahead of the bills but with friends and family like who are in my life (including online).. I'm a rich man. :group_hug :cheers:

[crazylegs]

Why pin yourself down? Religions are mainly social clubs with heavy agendas. Then you get yourself pigeon-holed and stuck in a rut. Just allow yourself to think freely, seek truth and treat other beings decently. What's the big deal? If you need a church go for a hike in the woods. Better air and no collection plates.

[Unkle_John]

^ exactly my point!

[PEACE FROG]

But thats still not that much to identify with, cause if you think about it, is in't everybody a pagan acording to a different religion? I like this reasoning :D

So i guess i still feel a little lost cause i dont know anyone else here like me.
**sigh**How do you know? You have'nt shared what you are experiencing.....or would like to :confused:

[CowboyHippy]

i am in between faiths for the most part, at least for the sake of having to put somethign on paper oficially. i believe what i want but when it comes to the church end i just found one that feels safe and comfortable, nobody looking down at me cause i'm not wearing a suit and forcing my kidlets to wear dress clothes.

the other day there was a cat dead out in the road, the boy asked, daddy whats that cat doing there

i said, kitty has gone to be with jesus now buddy

then he asked what jesus wanted a dead cat for.....

[Unkle_John]

Lol!!!!!

[crazylegs]

Music guy old buddy, what you need is to find people that like you, not people that are like you. ;) I tried for years to find somebody like me to hang out with. Finally discovered noone is that weird. Good thing too. I probably couldn't stand em.
:ufo:

[NCW_Woodnymph]

Now there is some wise advice for happy living. ;)

[Unkle_John]

You said it!

I was very picky on who I wanted to be with the rest of my life and I married a wonderful woman who shares her love for me and life and I share mine of hers (and life). Basically I found myself in female form.

:cheers:

[musicguy]

^now that wouldbe perfect. but i havnt found myself in anyone ive ever met except my mother....
i find that depending on which friend im with at the time, my personality can drasticaly change, just so i fit them. its getting kinda old, having to change myself so other like me. And if I can determine what i canidentify with, i can search for others that are just like that, instead of weeding through everyone who may not necessarily get along well with meor vise versa.

[musicguy]

I like this reasoning :D

How do you know? You have'nt shared what you are experiencing.....or would like to :confused:not here as in the forum, here as in where i live....Omaha.

[musicguy]

Why pin yourself down? Religions are mainly social clubs with heavy agendas. Then you get yourself pigeon-holed and stuck in a rut. Just allow yourself to think freely, seek truth and treat other beings decently. What's the big deal? If you need a church go for a hike in the woods. Better air and no collection plates.its not necessarily to make myself a religion, its to find someone who thinks like i do. cause if i say I'm mostly this or that, and some one else they are too, that would be a mojor conversation starter(amoung other things). I even feel that I'm not who I really am with my own parents. Like I have a reputaion with EVERYONE. and IIhave to keep it up inorder to make friends...at all. Like i said, I change myself to fit them, instead of being able to find someone who just....fits.

[LIBRA]

not here as in the forum, here as in where i live....Omaha.


Dont look, just live. Your young yet, you will change and grow and move. Just be happy with yourself at this moment and worry about finding love, when you truely love yourself.
Dont put pressure on it, its hard enough.

[crazylegs]

its not necessarily to make myself a religion, its to find someone who thinks like i do. cause if i say I'm mostly this or that, and some one else they are too, that would be a mojor conversation starter(amoung other things). I even feel that I'm not who I really am with my own parents. Like I have a reputaion with EVERYONE. and IIhave to keep it up inorder to make friends...at all. Like i said, I change myself to fit them, instead of being able to find someone who just....fits.Hey bro, you and everyone else will probably think this is nuts but I find that astrology answers a lot of those type of questions for me. If you want me to do your chart, feel free to PM me. Seriously.

[Unkle_John]

hey i'd like to get on on some of that!

[musicguy]

I've always wanted to see an astrologer, so that would be really cool.:D

[crazylegs]

hey i'd like to get on on some of that!PM me your day, month and year of birth as well as city and exact time from your birth certificate.

[crazylegs]

I've always wanted to see an astrologer, so that would be really cool.:DI'm not an astrologer. Just a serious hobbiest but I can get you started.

[musicguy]

I'm not an astrologer. Just a serious hobbiest but I can get you started. Well you the closest thing I've ever met to an astologer. So ill call it close enough for a first time.

[Unkle_John]

PM me your day, month and year of birth as well as city and exact time from your birth certificate.

Yessir! I'll check my BC when I visit my parents this weekend.

[crazylegs]

Okie dokie

[musicguy]

UnkleJohn, have you every seen an Astrologer before?

[Unkle_John]

Nope.

[LIBRA]

I want in on this action to... please :hb:

[crazylegs]

PM me with your info. :)

[musicguy]

thanx, that was very informative.
that certainly has a lot of answers, but it dosnt change my innate feeling of being alone.

[crazylegs]

Well we're all separate little egos bouncing around in this particular "reality". Making contact with others lightens the load but not always easy for everyone. Maybe a life goal that's gonna take some time. Maybe you'll find fulfillment in solitude but your chart has indicators for service to others, involvement with unusual and mystical/spiritual friends and groups, an ability to communicate with the heart, spiritual feelings and disciplines, and a forceful creativity and romantic involvement so maybe you're not as separate as you might think. There's also a powerful inclination towards philosophy and possibly travel. The chart really shows a lot of possibilities as well as challenges. I'd delve into it if I were you. Remember you're very much at the beginning of your life. When I was 17...........I had so much learning ahead of me. It's a time of many questions but point yourself in the direction you want to go and surely you'll get there eventually.

[musicguy]

It's a time of many questions but point yourself in the direction you want to go and surely you'll get there eventually.
oh i feel like i have WAY to many answers to questions i should really have at this age, but i still feel like i have soooooooooooo many more questions to answer. ie: what really matters to me?

[crazylegs]

Yeah that's a toughie. Sure took me long enough to figure that out.

[EarthEden]

Well, to tell ya the truth..I myself do not attend any church or religious services. I get my inspiration form simply walking on the nature trails. There's this really cool sounding gathering place I heard of up here in Ojai called Meditation Mountain where everyone of all beliefs is welcome and they do an innerfaith mediation and drum circle..sounds pretty cool.:) Someday I might check that out.

[musicguy]

I get my inspiration form simply walking on the nature trails. I live in the middle of big blastged city and the closest thing i get to nature is the squirels in my front yard. ive got me andmy QUARTER acre. and being in highschool i cant really doin anything about it. so im alone in this place away from anykind of answer to my questions and stuck here
this blows

[EarthEden]

I hear ya..you could use a trip to the Red Woods..Any great parks near ya? Like How New York has central park?

[musicguy]

Any great parks near ya? The only thing near....ish to here is a small "forest" called Neil Woods.
It's actually private property and is "closed" at random times.:confused: