Meat.

[Luna]

I have a question for you fine folk. What are your views on the consumption of meat? Meat being chicken, cows, baby cows, piggies, lambs, and the whole kebab!!

If you eat meat, what are the most-loving, naturally made meat to buy and eat?
What I mean is, something thats not big on torture like KFC.

[LIBRA]

I buy meat from the locals, either a butcher or farmer, depends. Or we eat venison in the winter from one of my brothers, I know how its killed why its killed and how its butchered.

[CowboyHippy]

I buy meat from the locals, either a butcher or farmer, depends. Or we eat venison in the winter from one of my brothers, I know how its killed why its killed and how its butchered.

Kfc is bad, and most of mcdonalds beef comes from overseas where the standards are terribly low and the output is terribly high

wild game will also lack all the groth hormones and antibiotics injected into all the other animals, it also tends to be leaner.

visit the farm if you plan on buying an animal for food. granted farms are somewhat dirty places but you can tell when animals are not cared for, also ask for what they do to their animals. the ones i get are hormone free and the pigs aren't raised around poultry. the poultry carries a lot of diseases and pigs are quite succeptable to pretty much any kind of sickness...wierd for an animal that wallers in the mud. the first time i bought an animal for food i put down a deposit to minimalize the injections. some they have to do by law if they sell to consumers (as opposed to keeping themselves)

might not be what you are up to but you can visit the slaughterhouse. the one i use charges a bit more but it's a very clean orderly operation.

[LIBRA]

my neighbors raise pigs all natural, and the butcher lives about a mile from me, I am surrounded by farms. so I am used to all that. I actually used to work at the butchers for deer season so that does not gross me out, the circle of life is how I like to see it. I dont have the time now because kris is in school. But when he wasnt I would work all day at my office job and nights at the butchers processing venison, they are good people and everything is clean.

A slaughter house may not be my cup of tea, the butcher is bad enough at least I dont have to watch anything die, its already dead.

Country girl born and raised.

Although my dad used to raise rabbits and that bothered me, when I was young I was a lil animal rights activist, later in life I realized how thankfull I was to my dad for raising us the way he did, I have a much higher respect for it.

[Unkle_John]

JuJu's family (and one day us) raise Hereford cows. I tell you that meat is the leanest and close to organic as we get the cheapest.

[crazylegs]

I ate plenty of meat in my day. I don't really get down on people that eat meat. Just know where it's coming from and how the animals are treated otherwise you can pick up some pretty nasty karma baby. ;)

[hits.of.sunshine]

I used to get so down on my dad for hunting (yes, i know) and leave little notes of random facts about what he was doing to open his eyes. Then he opened mine. He would have the deer processed and give it to homeless/poor people who needed it. It wasn't just for sport and to kill, he was really caring bout overpopulation and helping others who were in need. I respect that. I personally, would never shoot/arrow an animal though.

[PEACE FROG]

I liked your post about knowing how and why it was killed Libra. You should go too and get enough for the whole year. You could be this backwoodsey Tomb Raider chick! That might be cool. I like venison too. I once knew a dude who would take the bones and boil the meat off of them and make the most delicious deer gravy, poured over homemade biscuits.....mmmmmmm

[PEACE FROG]

I used to get so down on my dad for hunting (yes, i know) and leave little notes of random facts about what he was doing to open his eyes. Then he opened mine. He would have the deer processed and give it to homeless/poor people who needed it. It wasn't just for sport and to kill, he was really caring bout overpopulation and helping others who were in need. I respect that. I personally, would never shoot/arrow an animal though. I don't hunt either, but I own lots of firearms and am a very good shot, very good. Strange Huh?

[hits.of.sunshine]

you know, i can't be around guns (just due to a lot of my past) but my dad taught me when i was young how to shoot (mostly for protection)... my views are not settled on the whole thing. it's diabolical.

[CowboyHippy]

I don't hunt either, but I own lots of firearms and am a very good shot, very good. Strange Huh?

same here
everyone at work wonders why i dont hunt, i say it's all up to fate, it's not like i'll mis, all depends if i see something or not.

[hits.of.sunshine]

My dad always wanted me to do it as some "bonding" thing. I'd go deepsea fishing w/ him but could not watch an animal die. I could not live w/ myself knowing that I shot an animal. I (already mentioned it before) but hit a dog and just wept. Couldn't drive. Also, went to my dad's farm the other day and couldn't believe how many dead animals were on the side of the road. Unfortuantely most of them were people's pets. (or strays)... really got to me.

[NCW_Woodnymph]

I don't hunt either, but I own lots of firearms and am a very good shot, very good. Strange Huh?

For some reason I thought you were anti gun. Who knows where I got that from.
:D Our family fits into that category as well. I think my husband went hunting once before we met but he is really soft-hearted and I don't think it really set well with him. We love to go shooting though. I feel better about being home alone with my children knowing that if I really had to I could defend us.

I would love some fresh venison though. Yummy! :D

[Buffalo Head '75]

For some reason I thought you were anti gun. Who knows where I got that from.
:D Our family fits into that category as well. I think my husband went hunting once before we met but he is really soft-hearted and I don't think it really set well with him. We love to go shooting though. I feel better about being home alone with my children knowing that if I really had to I could defend us.

I would love some fresh venison though. Yummy! :D

Hey I represent the anti-gun movement on this forum. Do I have to quote the number of gun deaths in Europe and Canada compared to this country.

to me the right to bare arms means that the government can't cut off the two that you were born with.

It also means that you have the right to wear short sleeves. Unless you are AI, then by league mandate you must wear a "shooting" sleeve.

I love AI.

[LIBRA]

Living where it takes an hour for the police to come to my aide, if need be. If something were to happen to my famliy and I called 911, the closest state police barracks are 45 minutes away, so by the time they get the call, head out, find the house youre looking at an hour or better to rescue me,lol
I will not depend on that. I will make sure I am safe and my family is safe from any boogie man out there right then and there. Plus theres wild rabid animals too. I will never give up my shot gun. Ive never had to use it thankfully.

Im all for gun laws, safety etc... but im not for taking them away.

[Buffalo Head '75]

Living where it takes an hour for an police to come to my aide if need be I am so pro gun. If something were to happen to my famliy and I called 911, the closest state police barracks are 45 minutes away, so by the time they get the call, head out, find the house youre looking at an hour or better to rescue me,lol
I will not depend on that. I will make sure I am safe and my family is safe from any boogie man out there right then and there. Plus theres wild rabid animals too. I will never give up my shot gun. Ive never had to use it thankfully.

I won't even get into the stats in this situation. Let's just say that your gun use in the situation you just described put you and your family in far more jeopardy than the attacker.

[LIBRA]

right.

So last year when this meth head shot and killed 2 police officers then ran, was on the run through the woods for 3 days before he was found. He was armed. He lived a few mile from me and my family. I will take my chances with any statistic. If more people were taught about guns and gun safety this wouldnt be an issue, but instead its lets take away another one of our rights and make people even more ignorant to it.

[Buffalo Head '75]

right.

So last year when this meth head shot and killed 2 police officers then ran, was on the run through the woods for 3 days before he was found. He was armed. He lived a few mile from me and my family. I will take my chances with any statistic. If more people were taught about guns and gun safety this wouldnt be an issue, but instead its lets take away another one of our rights and make people even more ignorant to it.

Reactionary thinking drives me crazy. If you want that, join the Republicans (Woodnymph excluded of course, although she is NOT a Republican, whether she wants to admit it or not).

This is the typical, what would my family and I do scare tactic that the Republicans run. Do you also buy bulk canned goods when there is a snow storm? Do you fill the bathtub with water when there is a power outage? Plastic on the windows to avoid nuclear fall-out in case the "terrorists" attack.

1st, you are NOT trained to handle that type of situation. You are better off either leaving the area in your vehicle or locking your doors and securing your house and let the police do their job. 2nd, How did the meth head get the gun? That is right, because there is not enough gun control legislation.

You cannot expect just to educate a nation as large as ours on gun control safety and get the results you are hinting at. That is too naive.

The statistics in Canada and Europe don't lie. Gun control works.

[LIBRA]

why is everything either rep or dem with you? it really has nothing to do with my rational.

[NCW_Woodnymph]

Buff, since you like stats so much, compare the gun statistics from somewhere that everyone carries a gun, say Texas, to a state that has strict gun control, say New York. Tell me what you find. :D

:hippie:

[Buffalo Head '75]

Buff, since you like stats so much, compare the gun statistics from somewhere that everyone carries a gun, say Texas, to a state that has strict gun control, say New York. Tell me what you find. :D

:hippie:

I could dig up those figures for you and what you will find is that when adjusted per population density you would much rather live in NY.

We need two states that are more similar in population density, crime rate, and have opposite gun legislation.

NH is probably an easier state to start with. That is pretty gun friendly. Now what state mirrors it that has strict gun control?

The other item is that New York's gun violence is mainly in New York City itself. I would favor far more gun legistlation in Cities than rural areas.

and btw, you are more than capable of providing your own stats.

although, I am happy to hear from you. that was at least an attempt at a rational arguement. and at least made me have to think of a response.

go check out my pic! it's back up.

[PEACE FROG]

For some reason I thought you were anti gun. Who knows where I got that from.
:D Our family fits into that category as well. I think my husband went hunting once before we met but he is really soft-hearted and I don't think it really set well with him. We love to go shooting though. I feel better about being home alone with my children knowing that if I really had to I could defend us.

I would love some fresh venison though. Yummy! :DWell ya nymph that was part of the irony of the statement....it totally goes against my vibe. Funny though, our church had a men's outing at the range, I pull up in my Prius with an arsenal. Get out of the Prius, long hair, Baja hemp hoodie, patchy jeans and Croc rubber slides, I about outshot all those redneck wanabes. I was military trained, another irony, most conservative Bush cheerleaders were not. ;) :D

[NCW_Woodnymph]

Well ya nymph that was part of the irony of the statement....it totally goes against my vibe. Funny though, our church had a men's outing at the range, I pull up in my Prius with an arsenal. Get out of the Prius, long hair, Baja hemp hoodie, patchy jeans and Croc rubber slides, I about outshot all those redneck wanabes. I was military trained, another irony, most conservative Bush cheerleaders were not. ;) :D

Never judge a book by it's cover. ;)

:hippie:

[CowboyHippy]

Buff, since you like stats so much, compare the gun statistics from somewhere that everyone carries a gun, say Texas, to a state that has strict gun control, say New York. Tell me what you find. :D

:hippie:

well, guns or no i'd bet texas has more livestock, so based on the supply and demand factors id go with texas to get meat (after all it's a meat post, nothign to do with guns, unless they relate to livestock)