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Hi everyone! :) As on many things, i am trying to form an opinion on eating meat. I know a lot of you are vega, why are you? Please try to rationalize your arguments a bit. Personally, i think animals are a life form like us, and it doesn't seem civilized at all to eat them. On the other hand, so are ants or viruses... Has anyone good arguments why i should become vega?
love & joy,
otto
Pedata
01-27-2005, 08:48 AM
Hmm....no answers, huh?
Well, here's one- Why not? It's a personal choice.
I eat meat. I don't consider killing an animal any different than killing a plant. Everything is alive before you eat it. You just can't hear plants scream :p
Peace :)
Pedata
wyldflower
01-27-2005, 02:07 PM
One major difference between plants and animals, whatever you believe about both of them being living things, is that animals suffer and experience pain in ways that plants, at least as far as we know, do not.
Because of that, one good reason not to eat meat (or dairy for that matter) is that factory farming subjects animals, while they are still alive, to extreme and unnecessary creulty. Calves packed into stalls too small for them even to turn around become veal. Chickens are stuffed into cages too crowded for them ever to even spread their wings. These poor creatures, until they are slaughtered, live in misery and sleep standing up in their own feces. Do you really want to eat that? It's so unnecessary for this suffering when there are so many other perfectly good, healthy choices.
nappydread
01-27-2005, 02:07 PM
hey...
well i'm not here to tell you to be a veggie. In my situation, i unwittingly did not eat red meat for about 3 months...and then when i tried to go back-i would get day long stomach pains that were very grueling. So, although i could still stomach the other meats i decided...hey why not. My older sister who's been a veggie a long, long time got me makin some delicious recipes...and i haven't looked back:)
....well i still 'treat' myself to shellfish occassionally. So, i dunno, IMHO i say do it if you want to ...or don't :D
peace
PEACE FROG
01-29-2005, 09:49 AM
Go to the peta website and look at all the imformation they have. Those guys did thier homework. Vegans are more healthier and leanner people I think. According to the Bible I think man was created as a vegan and animals were for companionship. No one has died from "MAD TOFU" disease. :D
Pedata
01-29-2005, 10:46 AM
According to the Bible I think man was created as a vegan and animals were for companionship. No one has died from "MAD TOFU" disease. :D
Man started out as vegan-
I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be food for you. And to the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food. And it was so" (Genesis 1:29-30).
But later-
Genesis 9:1-3 says: "Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything."
Peta states that Jesus did not eat meat. They are wrong.
Luke 24:42-43, "And they gave him (Jesus) a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before them."
Just wanted to clear that up :)
Peace,
Pedata
PEACE FROG
01-29-2005, 02:06 PM
Pedata, Thanks for sharing the word!!! But what I was refering to though was intended use or purpose.So in the book of Genesis 2:18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone.55 I will make a companion56 for him who corresponds to him.”57 2:19 The Lord God formed58 out of the ground every living animal of the field and every bird of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would59 name them, and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 2:20 So the man named all the animals, the birds of the air, and the living creatures of the field, but for Adam60 no companion who corresponded to him was found. :) So the God decided to make woman,and we have'nt gotten in a word edge-wise since! HaHa! But you see the intention here was to create a help-mate or a companion. Thanks for your point! RESPECT!!! :D ED
Pedata
01-29-2005, 02:30 PM
Ed :) Ok, I see what you meant. You know, I do wonder why man was vegan first and then God decided we were able to eat meat. Guess I'll find out one day :D
Peace,
Pedata
Sunnydaydreams
01-29-2005, 02:40 PM
In Buddhism, the first precept is avoid killing or harming a living being. The Mayahana tradition follows a vegatarian diet, because living beings must die to become our food, and eating it would be an indirect contribution to the animal's death.
Personally, I don't like eating meat (although I do :eek: ) b/c I feel bad about the poor quality of the animal's life. I've read that chickens have their beaks removed and pigs, sheep, and cattle live crammed together in dark barns. :( That's so sad! My parents have cattle and they roam the pasture field & a little patch of woods w/ a creek & eat their fill of fresh grass & hay (sometimes corn when they escape into the fields). They get frolick w/ the deer :)
Peace & Love
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