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hedgewitch
03-30-2008, 11:57 PM
As well as providing your plants with a wonderful rich source of nutients composting is a great way to recycle household waste. Recycling the organic waste of a household into compost allows us to return badly needed organic matter to the soil. In this way, we participate in nature's cycle, and cut down on garbage going into burgeoning landfills. If you're like me and you don't have the room for the more conventional compost heap then there is an alternative in the form of container composting. You can buy commercialy produced compost containers but I found them to be very expensive and seeing as I had an old bin lying around - I thought I would re-cycle this too. If I can do this project then anyone can, I hope you're all inspired by my post.

1). Buy a bin
2). Turn it on it's side and drill holes all over the base
3). Drill more holes around the sides near the base

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4). Now you're ready to start adding things to it. I had a lot of garden clippings so I put these in first, you need dried stuff as this acts as the drainage.

Then I added loads of Leaves, I actually ripped them up really small as this makes composting easier and quicker, but I just wanted to show you guys the size of the Leaves I have to sweep up on my path!
Impressive huh!

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Then I covered the lot in some old soil that was left lying around in pots in the garden.
You'll need to stand your bin on some bricks (or anything else suitable, I used an old drwer) this will help the drainage.

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Now you're ready to start adding kitchen waste.
YeeHah!

You can add anything to a compost EXCEPT:
Meat,fish and bones ( you can add these but they smell real bad and attract pests, so it's advised not to )
oil and fats
Charcoal
Dairy products ( but egg shells are fine and a very good addition, just crush them up real small as they take a while to decompose )
Cat and dog poo

You can even add tea bags, coffee grinds, human and pet hair, contents of the hoover bag cardboard and paper
As you acquire kitchen or garden refuse, toss it right on top and cover with a thin layer of dried material, then a layer of soil, as if creating a lasagna.
When the bucket becomes about half full (about 3-4 weeks) turn ingredients with a spade and mix very well. Notice how the material looks, too wet - add dried material and water less, too dry - cut down on dried material increase soil and/or water. Now you will begin to mix about once per week to keep the microbiotic processes in motion.

Continue layering as before, turn very well about once per month. You'll know that the processes inside are continuing if the side of the bucket feels slightly warm to the touch. If it begins to smell, which it really shouldn't I promise, you are either adding too little dried material or too much water, adjust accordingly.

When the bucket becomes full. Set it aside to steep until the next growing season. Once a month, take a peak and mix the contents, mix well enough to bring the bottom to the top. As the weather cools to winter, you'll need to turn it less and less often.

6 months after starting the bin, you will have compost worthy of using in your garden.

HAPPY COMPOSTING!!

LIBRA
03-31-2008, 05:57 AM
Great thread! Urban composting is coming around and its great!

Earth worms love coffee grounds, not sure why but they do.

Also adding worms to your compost helps speed up the process!

I really enjoy composting, its great to see your food scraps turn into wonderfull soil, very rewarding.:)

NCW_Woodnymph
03-31-2008, 09:53 AM
Thanks for the step-by-step! I turned a garbage can into my compost bucket but I've been having some trouble with smell. I will try adding more dry stuff. :)

:hippie:

Pedata
03-31-2008, 10:58 AM
If you add limestone it will help stop smells and speed up the whole process.

NCW_Woodnymph
04-01-2008, 01:45 PM
Can you get limestone in the garden section? I haven't run across it.

:hippie:

hedgewitch
04-02-2008, 02:54 AM
Compost shouldn't smell.
If yours is a bit pongy woodnymph then you need to do a few things.

Make sure there are enough aeration holes (easy to drill a few more if there isn't)

Add more brown waste

Turn over regularly

CowboyHippy
04-02-2008, 02:30 PM
i've read on several sites not to add dog or cat poop because of the harmful things they contain, and the chances of eco savy folks coming in direct contact with it. just about any other animal is ok they said

I wish my yard was small enough to do this, i ended up making three large bins

as for the dog poop i got a piece of perforated pvc pipe and sunk it 6 feet straight down in the ground, kinda like a mini open topped septic tank, i just spray water down there whenever i am watering the flowers. it's in a spot to minimize the risk of a baby jessica incident

Buffalo Head '75
04-02-2008, 06:00 PM
Can you get limestone in the garden section? I haven't run across it.

:hippie:you should be able to get a pretty good size bag of it as your local garden type place. Home Depot will also carry it in season.

NCW_Woodnymph
04-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Compost shouldn't smell.
If yours is a bit pongy woodnymph then you need to do a few things.

Make sure there are enough aeration holes (easy to drill a few more if there isn't)

Add more brown waste

Turn over regularly

What do you mean by "brown waste"? Is that like dry leaves? I'm kind of short on that kind of stuff this time of year.

:hippie:

LIBRA
04-03-2008, 04:23 AM
ya, I think the ratio is 25 brown to 1 green. If its not its ok just wont compost as fast. And they should have lime by the bag at any hardware garden center.

Ask neighbors for there grass clippings,lol when the time comes anyway. Spread them out so they dry and turn brown then mix in. Ive used green fresh grass clippings, they clump and mold fast. Its better to let them dry out a bit first.

NCW_Woodnymph
04-03-2008, 08:18 AM
So far all I've really put in are kitchen scraps which are of course very wet. Matt also adds the mash from his beer which fills it up pretty fast. I'm wondering if I could spread that directly on my garden before I till it. I breaks down pretty quickly so I think I might try it. What do you guys think?

:hippie:

LIBRA
04-03-2008, 09:14 AM
I wouldnt unless you cover it with grass or hay or mulch. Bugs will be going crazy and you dont want them eating up your veggies. But if you think it will break down fast enough?

NCW_Woodnymph
04-03-2008, 01:00 PM
I was thinking of actually scattering it around and working it into the soil. He is brewing this weekend and I won't be planting until May. That would give it nearly a month to break down anyway. I think I'll try it. I'll let you know what happens.:D

:hippie:

Gaston
04-03-2008, 10:41 PM
I keep a couple of barrel shaped compost containers made from rat wire that I use mostly for kitchen scraps with a little yard waste through in from time to time to keep it from being messy, but I used sheet composting on the garden itself. Lay a good heavy layer of newsprint, paper bags, or cardboard and cover with thin layers of grass, chopped leaves, and chopped straw. It did well last year, this year we've had high winds that blew a bunch of my handiwork away so I'm starting the process again. You can get the details in Patricia Lansky's "Lasagna Gardening" book. Ruth Stout's book is worth a read if you have access to cheap spoiled straw or hay or barn stall cleanings. I have to buy straw so I compromised and did the Lasagna Garden thing.

We have a very nice, fruitful garden last year doing it that way, very few weeds.

LIBRA
04-04-2008, 04:42 AM
I was thinking of actually scattering it around and working it into the soil. He is brewing this weekend and I won't be planting until May. That would give it nearly a month to break down anyway. I think I'll try it. I'll let you know what happens.:D

:hippie:
I bet that would work fine!

And Gaston thanks for the tip, Ive always wanted to try the newspaper thing but wasnt sure what was up with it? Im gonna look it up!

LIBRA
04-04-2008, 05:34 AM
should you start the lasagna garden in the fall or spring. Cause I really want to give this style gardening a try, last yr I had way to many weeds and no time to pull them all. Its like compost gardening, Im so lovin that!!

Gaston
04-04-2008, 07:17 PM
When I started it last year it was part of the yard. I mowed it close just to make it easier to lay the paper flat. I had back surgery in August so I wasn't able to "put the garden to bed" when it was easy. Now I've got grass again because of the hay seeds mixed in with the poor straw I used, I'm just papering over it and it seems to work fine. That is, unless we get another round of high wind before I get finished and it all knits together.

I made a big mistake last year, as I pulled up plants I should have immediately re-papered and mulched the ground I had just disturbed. I'm essentially starting from scratch again because of that mistake, but at least I learned something.

Once it's planted it's really easy to keep. I went out once or twice a day for a few minutes, pulled up a few weeds before they could get good roots down, and knocked a few bugs into a can of soapy water.

NCW_Woodnymph
04-06-2008, 09:28 AM
This sounds like a great idea, especially since I'm really bad at keeping up on weeding. So do you plant and then put the paper and mulch around it or do you cut through the layers to put in the plants? Also, do you have to worry about chemicals from the newspaper getting into your plants?

:hippie:

Gaston
04-06-2008, 10:19 AM
This sounds like a great idea, especially since I'm really bad at keeping up on weeding. So do you plant and then put the paper and mulch around it or do you cut through the layers to put in the plants? Also, do you have to worry about chemicals from the newspaper getting into your plants?

:hippie:

I've done it both ways, in the main garden I just punched through with a small trowel, for the row of tomatoes along the fence I planted then laid overlapping sheets right against the plant stem. Both ways work. I didn't lose any tomatoes to cutworms last year (crosses fingers) although I've found them while digging so I know they're here. Maybe the planting method helped, maybe I was just lucky. Since I've raised my plants organically from seeds this year they aren't as robust as the heavily fertilized commercial greenhouse plants, so I'm planning on using a section of toiletpaper roll around them when I set them out.

On chemicals in general, there's not much way to completely avoid them. I talked to a couple of people on another board who were printers and they told me most newspapers use vegetable-based ink for the black on white pages, and I don't use the comics or "slicks" in the garden. Who knows for sure?

Unkle_John
04-06-2008, 11:11 AM
...it's in a spot to minimize the risk of a baby jessica incident

LOL I think I'm the only one that got that.

Also, human poo should not be placed in your compost intended for food crops. Humanure (as found from biotoilets/saw dust toilets and the like). The best rule of thumb is if it can or does eat meat, don't use it's poo for your food fertilizer.

Poo fertilizer is really only good for flowers, shrubs, trees and the like that does not produce something edible for humans. As for the pipe idea.. we're going to try that. BTW did you use an auger to dig that deep of a hole? and what size of dog and how many do you have?