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Unkle_John
05-14-2008, 03:41 PM
It's that time of year where no matter where we live we could face a natural disaster or sever storms. Living in Tornado Alley, both JuJu and I know how it is to hold your breath when you hear the tornado sirens late at night.

I'm asking everyone to keep this thread open with deals on finding the supplies listed in the article. I know wind-up radios are something we should all have anyways ;) but also any tips you have. I reuse medicine bottles for many things, I keep a written note with the bottle number and it's contents.

Copied from Mother Earth News:


Lightning and wind and rain – oh my! Severe storms, plus the blackouts and flooding that accompany them, can be life-threatening. But, with a bit of advanced planning, you can weather them with relative comfort and minimal anxiety.

Food and Water

For most short-term emergencies, when the power goes out, experts recommend that you have on hand 1 gallon of water for drinking and sanitation per person per day for at least three days.

Here’s how to do this: When storms threaten, fill jugs with drinking water and fill your bath tub to have water to flush the toilet. (If water pressure fails, you can still flush by pouring water into the tank and flipping the lever.) The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has information on disinfecting water for drinking and cooking.

Keep on hand some foods that can be eaten without being cooked and can be easily carried if you need to evacuate your home. Energy bars, jerky, dried fruit and nuts keep a long time, are easy to store and carry, and contain concentrated energy and protein.

If you have pets, you also will want to develop a plan for their care and safety, especially if you have to evacuate. Add water for pets to your stored supply and sealable bags of dry food, plus leashes, crates and bowls to eat and drink from, if you have to evacuate. It’s good to have your animals’ shots up to date and their records handy to take with you.

Some folks keep an evacuation backpack ready to go in case of an emergency. If you and your family have to leave the house in a hurry, having just the basic supplies listed below will make the situation more comfortable. Store the backpack in a location that is easily accessible and known by all members of the household. Ready America, a government Web site, has more information about emergency supplies.

Emergency Kit:

Weather radio
Flashlight
Old cell phone
Cell phone car charger
First aid kit
Water bottles
Hand sanitizer
Sealable plastic bags for food
A rain parka for each member of the family
Spare batteries
Cash, including some change
Addresses and phone numbers of family members and emergency services
Local map
Deck of cards
Stay Informed

If the power goes out, you won’t have TV, radio or the Internet to provide you with up-to-date information. Battery-powered or crank weather radios, available from $9 to $90, will keep you informed of conditions during a weather emergency. Even if the power goes out, a landline, non-electric phone may still work, so keep one around. And you can use your car to charge your cell phone using a cell phone car charger, which plugs into the 12 volt DC car power socket (cigarette lighter). And any charged cell phone that can receive a signal, even one without an active service account, can dial 911.

Have a Plan

Know where to go in case a tornado or high water threatens your home. If you don’t have a basement, go to the most interior room or go to the nearest storm shelter. In cases of high water threatening your property, you should know the safest escape route to high ground that will not take you through the flood waters. Practice these strategies with your family so everyone knows where to go in case of a weather emergency.

Unless your house has been damaged by high winds or is being threatened by flood waters, the safest place to be during a weather emergency is your own home. We all cope best during times of stress when we are in familiar surroundings. This is especially true for children, the elderly and pets.
First Aid

Having first aid knowledge is another valuable resource for your family and your community. The Red Cross and Community Emergency Response Teams (CERT) offer first aid, CPR and disaster preparedness classes. The time to take these classes is now, before you need to use the skills.

Ready America also has a list of first aid kit supplies that includes the following, plus special supplies for at risk situations:

Two pairs of Latex, or other sterile gloves (if you are allergic to Latex)
Sterile dressings to stop bleeding
Cleansing agent/soap and antibiotic towelettes to disinfect
Antibiotic ointment to prevent infection
Aspirin or non-aspirin pain reliever
Anti-diarrhea medication
Antacid
Laxative

With preparation and planning, you can make a short-term power outage relatively easy to deal with. You and your family might even be able to make it a fun experience, similar to camping out.

Buffalo Head '75
05-14-2008, 04:00 PM
Wait a minute.... WHAT THE HELL IS A TORNADO SIREN??????

CowboyHippy
05-14-2008, 08:06 PM
military surplus storage is a dandy idea folks. I use .50 cal cans for a lot but i have also found rocket containers (about 2 ftx1ftx3ft) for about $20, waterproof and tough as all hell. while you are there get a couple tents and some parkas. and wool blankets, and gawd knows whatelse, those places have everything

something we got as a gift last year is a weather alert radio. I have had a noaa reciever/cb unit for about 15 years now (saved my arse once) but this new one sets off an alarm like an alarm clock when there is a severe weather warngin in my area. especially a nice thing since we dont watch a lot of brodcast tv or listen to the radio.

and buffalo maybe its different where you live but here in BFE michigan there are sirens mounted every few miles on poles.
different codes for natural disasters, tornados, floods....and a test every second thursday of the month at 3 p.m. here it also serves as the calling bell for the fire department, which is all volunteer, aside from one staffed member in the office to moniter calls. if we hear a constant tone (for the fire signal) it's a fairly sure bet that in a few minutes we'll be seeing the fire trucks roll.

Gaston
05-14-2008, 09:55 PM
I'd add Steri-strips or butterfly closures to the med kit (I prefer butterflies). There's nothing short of suturing that will do the same job.

If you can find a wire splint it would be a worthy addition, too. If someone gets a break and you're several days from proper care, you can make a much better splint with it than with two sticks and a shirttail, and it's more universal and hells cheaper than air splints.

Buffalo Head '75
05-15-2008, 05:41 AM
military surplus storage is a dandy idea folks. I use .50 cal cans for a lot but i have also found rocket containers (about 2 ftx1ftx3ft) for about $20, waterproof and tough as all hell. while you are there get a couple tents and some parkas. and wool blankets, and gawd knows whatelse, those places have everything

something we got as a gift last year is a weather alert radio. I have had a noaa reciever/cb unit for about 15 years now (saved my arse once) but this new one sets off an alarm like an alarm clock when there is a severe weather warngin in my area. especially a nice thing since we dont watch a lot of brodcast tv or listen to the radio.

and buffalo maybe its different where you live but here in BFE michigan there are sirens mounted every few miles on poles.
different codes for natural disasters, tornados, floods....and a test every second thursday of the month at 3 p.m. here it also serves as the calling bell for the fire department, which is all volunteer, aside from one staffed member in the office to moniter calls. if we hear a constant tone (for the fire signal) it's a fairly sure bet that in a few minutes we'll be seeing the fire trucks roll.
We don't have anything like that. I believe some fire departments here and there might have air-raid sirens somewhere in their basements.

New England is really safe though. We don't get any major storms, no earthquakes, etc.

That is scary! No wonder it costs so much to live here. LOL

NCW_Woodnymph
05-15-2008, 09:08 AM
We use to have a siren in town that went off to call the volunteer fire fighters. I took a long time to get use to when we moved her. That is the top of my list of creepy sounds!

We too are blessed to live in a part of the country that is pretty safe. We have a small earthquake every 5 yrs or so but that is about it. Still, I always feel safer knowing we are prepared just in case.

We go camping a lot so I keep all of our camp gear in one place. It takes me about 20 min to get it all in the car. I think we could do ok with that for at least a week or so. I also think it is important to know what grows wild that you can eat in your particular area just in case of emergency. Plus it's fun to go "treasure hunting" for yummy wild treats. :D

:hippie:

Unkle_John
05-15-2008, 10:23 AM
Wait a minute.... WHAT THE HELL IS A TORNADO SIREN??????

Siren Explanation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_defense_siren)

Siren Demonstration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuu2iNisoQc&feature=related)

Buffalo Head '75
05-15-2008, 10:36 AM
That is just plain wrong. How do you guys sleep with this thing?

Ok, definitely not moving to the mid-west anytime soon. lol

LIBRA
05-15-2008, 10:37 AM
You guys are freakin me out.....man!!! :D


just kiddin, kinda...

But I have some stuff, all my camping gear is in totes. Has some canned goods, batteries crank flashlites. I do need a crank radio though/cell charger. That would be handy. I could get myslef all freaked out thinkin about that, like a nuclear attack. Ugh.
Anytime we get a real bad thunderstorm are power goes out so I always fill the tub for potty flushing. The wind blows in the wrong direction and are powers out, thats what I get for living on a hill in the woods.

Unkle_John
05-15-2008, 10:37 AM
I agree with the Cowboy 100%.

Military surplus is the way to go on many reasons. But for someone who wouldn't think it's a good idea... tell them that our government and others around the world pay top dollar on uniforms that will out last the solider. I'm using military items from the Vietnam era up until Desert Storm and it still feels and holds up like new. I have a nylon backpack from the 70's that got age rot all over the thing, but my medic pack from the Vietnam era are still holding up. And think if it this way, the government spent our money, we might as well get some use out of it too.

These websites have a lot to choose from:

www.armysurpluswarehouse.com

www.armynavydeals.com

www.armysurplusworld.com

www.cheaperthandirt.com

Unkle_John
05-15-2008, 10:41 AM
Oh and they use those sirens around here to call the vol fire dept together. Like they haven't heard of pagers (which they have). When it's cloudy and they test the sirens, it's kinda creepy. But when it's raining and they use it to call the fire fighters to handle something like... a wreck.. then it's disturbing on the nerves thinking there's something going on in the skies.

I've ridden through 4 or 5 tornadoes in my life.

I won't say tornadoes aren't out here, I know how to find pics online of a few in this county. But seriously though, they aren't that back. Last year we didn't have a single warning issued for our area.

Buffalo Head '75
05-15-2008, 11:57 AM
Oh and they use those sirens around here to call the vol fire dept together. Like they haven't heard of pagers (which they have). When it's cloudy and they test the sirens, it's kinda creepy. But when it's raining and they use it to call the fire fighters to handle something like... a wreck.. then it's disturbing on the nerves thinking there's something going on in the skies.

I've ridden through 4 or 5 tornadoes in my life.

I won't say tornadoes aren't out here, I know how to find pics online of a few in this county. But seriously though, they aren't that back. Last year we didn't have a single warning issued for our area.
I have never even heard nor seen a tornado siren... let alone a tornado. I would like to keep it that way.

I have seen pictures of trailers scattered all over the place as if an H-bomb just went off.

I will stay away from trailers, tornados and H-Bombs as much as possible.

Unkle_John
05-15-2008, 01:59 PM
For some reason trailer homes are tornado magnets.

I always thought they should make a fake trailer home park outside of town to lure the tornadoes away.

CowboyHippy
05-15-2008, 06:29 PM
For some reason trailer homes are tornado magnets.

I always thought they should make a fake trailer home park outside of town to lure the tornadoes away.

what does an arkansas divorce and a tornado have in common......someones losin' a trailer

I also picked up a gp medium tent at a swap meet for $150 with the poles. provided the tornado just levels the house and the tent stays in the garage i can have a 16x32 shelter up in a few hours. if not we'll cram into the bus or the camping tent

another great first aid item is tegaderm hp patches. drugstores sell regular tegaderm patches but i go to either ebay or a relative employed by a hospital to get the hp ones, it's a clear patch looks like a piece of packing tape. i have used them to stop bleeding and hold cuts shut like butterfly closures. they are waterproof and wont come off even if you go swimming. about as thin as scotch tape too.

I'd also reccomend (in an emergency type kit) you can mix it up a ton of different ways. should outta last at least a month
20# dried beans
20# dried rice
2 boxes bisquick
20 cans of spam
20 cans tuna fish

should fit in a rubbermaid tote with room to spare. fill the rest with canned tomatos and canned apples

yeah, you may not like spam, or anything else on the list but second class eating beats first class starving (or waiting in line for food, or stuck in a sports arena littered with garbage and hundresd of angry people) I always have a katydyn water filter in my pack, which is always packed so i am not so focused on water for cooking

michigan never gets much flooding or earthquakes
new england might not get many tornados

and new orleans always though hurricanes would miss them

Buffalo Head '75
05-15-2008, 08:39 PM
both of those were very funny!

New England doesn't get too much flooding. That one year but never anything of biblical proportion. I don't think we have ever had an earthquake that did more than shake a glass. I have never felt an earthquake myself. (knocks on wood).

Unkle_John
05-16-2008, 08:32 AM
A note to everyone, this will come off as a big "DUH", but replace the food in your stash so it doesn't make you sick.

Something else I was going to add:

Candles (preferably the ones in jars, and non-scented if you can find them... cinnamon gets tiresome quick)
Lanterns (oil & gas)

A few years ago, I think it was the first spring in this house, we had a tornado touch down about 8-9 miles from our house. Well we were safe from the direction it was going, but it knocked out the power station for 3 days. JuJu and I played board games, read old Mother Earth News, Backwood Homes, and Countryside magazines. We ate what we could of anything in the fridge that would spoil, first. But we enjoyed each other's company and cool evening on the front porch swing as neighbors came out and talked, and walked the streets keeping a watchful eye out for each other.

But your traditional "hurricane" glass lanterns (http://www.bobsvarietystore.com/Oil_Lamp_br15351.jpg) and camping or railroad lanterns (http://www.shoplackawanna.com/ProductImages/hurricane_lamp.jpg), are what we used. We had enough fuel for the lanterns to last us two weeks or more. We only turned them on way after the sun was gone and the sky turned dark.

I also recommend looking for the Foxfire books and invest in the Lehman's catalog.

CowboyHippy
05-16-2008, 02:12 PM
take a baby food jar (i'm sure even the hardcore hippies should outta have some)
cotton string
and veggie oil (or lamp oil)

use a nail to put a hole in the jar top
saturate the string with veggie oil and pull it through the tiny hole, then fill the jar with oil and put the lid on and light, mini oil lamp (kinda like a hurricane lamp

this is also a fun craft project, uses rubbing alcohol for fuel and a great camping item

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6OIHtKOXpQ&feature=related

if the link no worky do a search for thru hiker stove or pop can alcohol stove
not the most powerful but for what it is and what it costs it is damn nice.

LIBRA
05-19-2008, 10:10 AM
great tips guys!!! Makes me wanna go out and get prepared, I should really.

Unkle_John
05-19-2008, 11:06 AM
Here's something to consider for your emergency pack or even for camping.
Buy some of those flavored "water enhancers". You know you've see them, they are a packet with premix flavoring for your water bottle (Hawaiian Punch, Kool-Aide, etc.). These are great for when you tire of water and want a sweet craving or for the kids to enjoy. As far as I know, most or all of them are sugar free.