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Shydog
09-03-2008, 03:19 PM
I sometimes find feathers, but cannot figure a good use, seems they could be made into a craft of some sort. They seem so delicate. Some are really too big for anything I can think of. Pretty sure the big ones are from Red Tailed Hawks, they winter here, and sometimes I just stumble upon these feathers. As a gift, what can we do with feathers?

SweetJaine
09-03-2008, 03:50 PM
One thing that came to mind as I was reading this was that Red Hawk is a Messenger Totem. You might use the feathers on some interesting handmade stationary...note cards or something....

Keeping the gift in alignment with the medicine of the individual bird might be cool :)

Adam Blanchard
09-03-2008, 04:24 PM
you could always do what my fiancee does and make feather fans with the feathers you have collected.

LIBRA
09-04-2008, 06:05 AM
Dream catchers would be cool too!

I have some feathers I find sticking outta my house plants. Actually Kris finds them and stuck one in a house plant, now they are everywhere in lots of plants. Its his doing really.

Shydog
09-04-2008, 10:58 AM
Thanks everyone, this will give me a fun project this Winter. Making a fan would take alot of feathers I think, sounds like it would make a really cool gift. Why didn't I think of a "Dream Catcher"? I know... maybee with a hoop from a Willow branch. The Hawk will tie in... The Hawk is a powerful bird which, like the Eagle, can fly to great heights and thus be 'near the Sun'. The Indians also associated the bird with Thunder and Lightning. So the Hawk characterises the radiant energy of Fire, and the sudden illumination of the flash of light, and the power that is inherent in the transmuting of energy. Kenneth Meadows, "Earth Medicine"... So If I could make a dream catcher out of Hawk feathers that would be cool. Come to think of it...a flash of Light... Thanks, now I'm Seeing.

Shydog
10-28-2008, 07:25 PM
That's what I'm gonna do. Got 3 willow hoops made up, got my feathers ready, Darci has an Indian dream maker friend....I hope this works out.

Gaston
11-01-2008, 05:37 PM
I hate to be a buzzkill, but be very careful about possessing any wild bird feathers, especially from migratory birds or raptors. Check here first: http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/ to see if you need a permit. It doesn't matter if you simply picked them up off the ground, you may still be in violation of a Federal law with disproportionately severe penalties. A friend of mine had his house ransacked by the USFWS and was handcuffed and frogmarched off to jail, even though he had the right permits for the eagle feathers he owned. The Lakota shaman who was training him in the sweat lodge ceremony called his congressman and got my buddy out of jail long enough to prove his right to own them. They scared his family half to death with the raid. When I got home I dumped my box of pickup wing sheds from the Canada geese we fed every day.

You'd probably get in less trouble hanging crack balloons off your dreamcatcher.

Again, sorry for the buzzkill, but Steve's tale of woe isn't something most people hear about. If it's important to you, get a permit first. When I was a Cherokee reenactor I bought fake feathers (painted chicken and domestic turkey feathers) and kept the receipt in the car when I went to events, as USFWS agents have been known to attend reenactments and pow-wows just to nail people.

I ain't paranoid, they really are out to get me. ;)

Shydog
11-01-2008, 07:03 PM
O.K. man. Maybee Guinea feathers would be O.K. man... Wait a minute, feather possesion is illegal? Thats trippy man. We were just talking about "Brave New World." How these world programmers programed everyones minds, they could make them believe anything...Feathers are bad,bad,bad. O.K. man.

Unkle_John
11-02-2008, 09:37 AM
I sometimes find feathers, but cannot figure a good use, seems they could be made into a craft of some sort. They seem so delicate. Some are really too big for anything I can think of. Pretty sure the big ones are from Red Tailed Hawks, they winter here, and sometimes I just stumble upon these feathers. As a gift, what can we do with feathers?

Cat toys.
Cats love feathers.
They ask for it by name.

LIBRA
11-02-2008, 03:32 PM
Gaston that is CRAZY!!! Why do they care if you use feathers whats it hurting?

Shydog
11-03-2008, 10:48 AM
In all honesty a problem can arise when $$$ is involved. It's not the case here.

Gaston
11-04-2008, 09:50 PM
In all honesty a problem can arise when $$$ is involved. It's not the case here.

What I'm telling you is that the $$$ doesn't matter, it's simple possession of certain feathers that's illegal unless you have a Federal permit.

LIBRA
11-05-2008, 05:46 AM
Gaston, why is that? I wonder why the feds care so much, whats it hurting?

Crochety Carpenter
11-05-2008, 07:37 AM
Gaston is right. has to do with the endangered spiecies act. Feds think you must be killing the birds to get the feathers. Stupid but true.

LIBRA
11-05-2008, 07:54 AM
Ohhhh thats why. I get it now. I was thinking what the heck do they care if you find some bird feathers.

Unkle_John
11-05-2008, 08:26 AM
Yeah, native tribes are the only ones allowed to possess raptor and certain other birds feathers for ceremonial purpose.