Joe sixpack VS Joe Stoner

[LIBRA]

In regards to Sarah Palins Joe sixpack statement at her first and only debate.

Whats your thoughts? How can Joe six pack be an american icon and joe
stoner sits in jail?

Im sick of cannabis getting a bad wrap. You can be an outstanding citizen, great parent, hard worker etc.. and still smoke weed. Sterotypes are so far off anymore its not even funny. The war on drugs is a joke, as far as weeds concerned. If I can grow it in my own back yard with no added chemicals, no battery acid, formyldahyd (sp) how can it be illegal. I can see restrictions and stuff, but for an adult who is responsible, it shouldnt be an issue.

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2008/oct/06/how_come_joe_sixpack_is_an_ameri

[CowboyHippy]

I dont smoke weed
or drink six packs

can i be joe vodka?

[PEACE FROG]

Good article. It is like prohibition of alcohol. Making it illegal produces criminals by giving opportunities in the black market. They say that it needs to be illegal "for the Children" and that it will make them lethargic and under-achievers. Video games have already done that. So whaddaya say we make video games illegal, let me have my weed and just tell the kids to stay the hell outta my sock drawer.

[Savon]

HAHAHA that makes me laugh! (in a good why):D I LOVE VIDEO GAMES LOL!

[PEACE FROG]

Palin was trying to be folksie. And the term "Joe Sixpack" was properly used, not to endorse alcohol but to point to middle class. If you think about it, only an outsider would use that term to describe a middle class American. It's kinda condescending. 10 or 15 years ago, her handlers would've told her to say "Bubba" attempting to sound "down home". Tell me this; if she is just like us, a real person, a down home hockey mom, how come you don't see pictures of her at her kid's hockey games? Hmmmm....;)

[LIBRA]

Condescending indeed.

And yes cowboy you can be Joe vodka :D Why not!!!

Im the epitome of what she claims to be. Imo. You cant be a good ol soccer mom if your not around. So if her and I are so much alike, why does every word out of her mouth scare the living crap outta me. Politician and good ol hockey mom are like oil and water. Unfortunatly.
I dont relate to her and never will, I think or wish is more the word, that she would give up this whole folksie crap and be who she really is, a right winged whack job with cool glasses.

If weed were legal when I was growing up I would have been less likely to have tried it. And its funny you said that Ed, cause Becky my best friend to this day, found her dads stash in his sock/undie drawer when we were 13. If it were out on the counter like the coffee pot, we would have walked right by it, I didnt try coffee till I was in my 20's!

[Hippie Staff]

So if her and I are so much alike, why does every word out of her mouth scare the living crap outta me.
Denise we are NOTHING like her. NADA!!!!! :hippie:

[LIBRA]

I know but what she tries to portray. A good ol soccer mom, or hockey mom whatever. I just feel like she acts like she is just a reg ol momma trying to make life for her kids better etc... Thats what I am about and I dont feel that she is.

I should have explained that way better LOL I dont really think I am the epitome of her, but what she tries to assume we see of her. If that makes any sense.

She is everything but a regular ol hockey mom.

[LIBRA]

Better yet, the other day I was talking to a friend and he said to me, whats so bad about her, she is a mother just like you. HUH... So is that cow grazing in the field, she is a mother and I have NOTHING incommen with a cow.

[Crochety Carpenter]

Libra,

Well not NOTHING. You just said you were both mothers. (little humor...very little)

On the weed thing you (and a certain Woodnymph) may be supprised that I agree with you.

Now, I don't smoke and I don't chew and I don't go with girls that do but, whether you do or don't is broader than the doing... or don'ting as the case may be.

What I mean to say is that whether something should be leagle or not is one argument, what you do with that law is another.

There is no moral difference between a 16 yr old smoking than a 21 year old when viewed from the smoking perspective. The fact remains that one is breaking the law and the other isn't. That gives it a moral dimension. Is breaking the law ok? What laws is it ok to break? Both of those questions lead to much discusion, so for the sake of time I'll assume that it is wrong to break the law. One's attitude toward breaking the law is of far more substance than the actuall breaking of the law.
I would be less likely to trust an under age smoker or drinker, not simply because of their consumption but because it indicates an attitude that says "The rules don't apply to me"