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Ubriago
10-19-2008, 03:18 PM
How many times do Republicans have to vote "their party" before they realize that no Republican is working for them?
How many times do Democrats have to vote thinking their government is going to help them? Poor Americans have been voting for Democrats fot 100 years...and they're still poor.
We need another party, or maybe two other parties.
Democrats and Republicans are in bed together. The people in Washington are happy, they're rich.
Wearing an Obama button, or tooting the horn for McCain doesn't do a thing, they are still ripping us off.
We just march to slaughter.
Anyone have a solution here?
Is anyone happy with either candidate? Think they are the answer? Think there will be no new taxes? The economy will magically get better?
As Earl Pitts says on the radio "Wake Up America!"
forrest
10-19-2008, 05:26 PM
YouTube - Brief Interview with Ron Paul over Israel and NAU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Jn2xCF92Y)
WRMEA: U.S. Aid to Israel (http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm)
Stop the North American Union (http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/)
LIBRA
10-20-2008, 11:23 AM
I know, its sad.
Ive been contemplating a reply and I dont know what to say.
It seems impossible to trust the government. There all rich, in this together, one big conspiracy after another. How can one cadidate really change or fix this mess???
Im scared for the future, but I also know we have to have change, big huge scary change. Im grateful for everything I have, I surely dont have it as bad as some folks do, or as good and I dont like complaining. But this corruption has to stop. Im putting my faith in Obama to be that change, to help stop the corporate corruptions. Maybe he will, maybe he wont. My faith is strong that either way change is eminent.
LIBRA
10-20-2008, 11:29 AM
I also have to say that Forrest Gump is on that you tube video with Ron Paul, towards the end. I sware its him.
Crochety Carpenter
10-20-2008, 11:43 PM
The founders of our country pleged "Their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor" to the founding of our nation. In this day and age almost no one is willing to be moved out of their comfort zone.
We want our paychecks, not necessarily our jobs.
We want our homes free of danger.
We want our food abundant and cheep.
We want our leisure uncomplicated and uninterrupted.
We care little for what we leave our children, its up to them to make their own way.
We want unchallenged security.
I know one of you bright people can tell me who said;
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security are worthy of neither"
Can't think of it right now.
Savon
10-21-2008, 04:31 AM
Ben Franklin i believe. (you know dude who "found" electricity.)
Taurus
10-21-2008, 06:13 AM
I'm ever hopeful for change, but not overally optimistic. Government does a lot of talking, but how much do they really accomplish? The environment has been talked about since the 60's but what has been done comparied to what could have been accomplished in 40 years? I heard Ted Kennedy on C-Span in the 80's talk about the need for some kind of universal health care - we're still talking about that 35 years later. And breast cancer - I read an article in a Philidelphia paper sometime between 66-68 about the rise / link between cancer since the 50's when they started injecting beef with hormones. Read a simular article when living in Seattle in the 90's and in the Anchorage paper more recently, but they're still shooting up cattle. And, the drug companies are still bushing "cures" that kill people.
Adam Blanchard
10-21-2008, 06:19 AM
This reminds me of a passage from this little document we have called the Declaration of Independence.....
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Maybe we the people should take advantage of this right we have and work together to reform our government.
unclejoe
10-24-2008, 05:28 PM
Adam, you've the right of it.
if we (the people) wish to improve this things country, WE have to do it.
progress in New Orleans is being made by individuals working together for the common good
while 'thu gumment' moves pieces of paper back and forth.
want change? here's a possible starting place:
http://www.happyhippie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2459&highlight=unclejoe
Adam Blanchard
10-24-2008, 06:14 PM
Kind of sad when democracy gets overturned by bureaucracy.
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