Greenpeace is Snarky

[Hippie Staff]

We've supported GreenPeace over the years, and have driven lots of traffic to them - and will continue to do so. However, we got an email today from them that was well..SNARKY.

Posted below w/ my reply.

--- webmaster@greenpeaceusa.org wrote:
From: Greenpeace <webmaster@greenpeaceusa.org>
Subject: Urge President-elect Obama to lead the way on global warming
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:38:48 -0500 (EST)

Dear Greenpeace Supporter,
For eight long years, President Bush ignored global warming and turned his back on the rest of the world. After nearly a decade of inaction, there is precious little time left to stop the worst impacts of global warming. What President-elect Obama chooses to do now will impact me, you, and the entire planet for generations to come.
That's why I asked Obama about his plans when I had the chance to speak to him on the campaign trail. Specifically, I asked him if he would attend the international global warming treaty negotiations happening this December in Pozna?, Poland. By attending in person and laying out his vision for the world's approach to solving global warming, he can jumpstart his administration's efforts to tackle this critical issue.
Check out the video of me and President-elect Obama >>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_TD4OL-15U>
The president-elect told me that he probably wouldn't go to Poland himself, but that he would be sending a representative. I'm happy that he's made this commitment, but the best way for him to demonstrate America's renewed dedication to stopping global warming is to go himself.
Take Action NOW >> Urge President-elect Obama to personally attend the international climate treaty negotiations in Pozna?.
<http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start/218/>
Now is the time for America to show the rest of the world that we are back on track and that we're serious about tackling global warming. America should be a leader in implementing solutions like strict efficiency standards, aggressive investment in renewable energy, and a cap on global warming pollution. The climate talks in Pozna? are the perfect opportunity for us to rejoin the rest of the world in addressing the most urgent environmental crisis of our time.
When we pass this planet off to our children, we have to be able to look them in the eye and say that we solved the most dire environmental crisis we have ever faced ? otherwise, we'll be handing off a much different planet than we live on now. The path to a clean, sustainable future starts in Pozna? ? let's make sure President-elect Obama is there to lead the way.
For the future,
Melissa Leonard
Greenpeace volunteer
Greenpeace
702 H Street, NW, Suite 300, Washington, D.C. 20001
(800) 326-0959


Dear GreenPeace,

We've supported GreenPeace for a long time, and have driven a lot of traffic to you over the years.

I'm writing because I find this email today a bit 'snarky'.

President Obama has a full plate right now, and the WORLD is expecting him to solve GLOBAL issues.

If Obama wants to delegate and send a representative to Poland, then so be it. As a President, he needs to obtain info, decipher and act on it. He can't possibly be everywhere, all the time, and that is why he will build a solid team around him. He is also our best choice and hope for a real alternative energy plan here in the United States.

If this is the tone that Greenpeace is going to take at our new president elect, then Greenpeace will lose some support.

Happyhippie.com
Promoting Eco-Biz Online Since 1997

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I mean, am I being cranky today? lol I look at ALL the issues of important right now to the United States, and the World - and this Melissa chick is whining because he can't personally attend this event? Can't he get the cliffnotes? It's not like he's NOT AWARE of Global Warming - did she miss the campaign? Ok rant over.

[Adam Blanchard]

I think your totally in the right. It is a global probliem, not just an american one. How many of the world's other leaders are going to personaly be there? Every single one of them? I highly doubt it. I'm a betting a majority of other countries will send a designates representative with the authority to debate and potentaly commit to a course of action that will be reasonable for all.

[LIBRA]

Your not being cranky, as I was reading it I was like huh, umm, why waste the time and energy to send that email out? I think sending a rep is great and should be appreciated.

Go Meg :D Great response!

[Hippie Staff]

I love GreenPeace..and will continue to support, but I hope someone there sees my response. They need to back a winning horse and support it, not knock it down before it starts the race.

This reminds me of PETA's email to Ben and Jerry's to make Human Breast Milk ice cream. Stupid shit like this makes these organizations look stupid.

I'd rather come across as a bleeding heart liberal, not just bleeding stupid.

:D

[PEACE FROG]

Greenpeace is full of ex-sixties-radicals....;)

[Adam Blanchard]

you mean yuppies?? :p

[Hippie Staff]

snarky radicals ;)

BTW - i'd be happy to throw green paint on fur coats in NYC anyday.

[PEACE FROG]

Exactly! Obama cannot be seen with "Snarky Radicals" anymore.:D

[Crochety Carpenter]

Hippie staff,

With someone like you at the helm this site has a great future. Your response was spot on and I don't even agree with the subject.:heff2:

[LIBRA]

You dont agree with global warming? Id like to hear this...

[Crochety Carpenter]

Don't agree with man caused global warming. Obviously the earth has been warming since the last ice age or here in NCW I'd be under several hundred feet of ice. The earth has been much warmer than it is now and will be again without any input from us. Also, I saw somewhere that all of the planets in the solar system have been warming due to solar activity and that the temp has been falling slightly for the last ten years due to lessening solar activity.
Hmmm... where's the target on my face emoticon...

[PEACE FROG]

Uh oh............here we go!;)

[Hippie Staff]

Man did and is causing global warming. From the burning of fossil fuels, the release of sequestered hydrocarbons into the earth’s atmosphere, and mass deforestation are causing climate change, which is why there is a rapid loss of Arctic sea ice. Just ask the Polar Bears.

[LIBRA]

Right....just like we walked the Earth with the dinosaurs.

So do you think we should keep going they way were going and keep destroying land, animals burning fossil fuels and eating up anything in our way to keep comfortable? That renewable energy isnt a worthy cause? Do you think at the rate where going the world can sustain this for another 100 years? The million tons of pesticides that are being sprayed by the minute the rate of cancer by the minute. Our children dying from leeching plastic. Is all this made up, all this is helping the environment?

Ugh. Seriously.

Do you recycle or do you think landfills are just big open spaces waiting for our garbage, or the ocean is a floating landfill and it wont harm it a bit or the creatures that GOD created.

Way to paint that target buddy.

[Crochety Carpenter]

Way to paint that target buddy.

I try in my own small way.:D

I do recycle and reuse as I can. Compost too. I believe that God gave us this world as stewards and that we should use it wisely as He intended. The current global warming fanatisism has nothing to do with environment and everything to do with global control of the populace.

[PEACE FROG]

How about a "diggin a hole" smilie

[LIBRA]

The current global warming fanatisism has nothing to do with environment and everything to do with global control of the populace.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->


Oh is it. How so?

For me it has everything to do with the environment. Everything. It has ever since I was a kid. And I plan on passing on my passion for the earth to my son.

[Hippie Staff]

Crochety - Its funny that you recycle/compost - yet don't seem to think that big business polluters are causing any harm?

They get a free pass to hurt the earth, yet you are a good steward? That makes no sense.

Then again - you are for giving big business tax breaks and loop holes too, while we pay our fair share.. ?

So let me get this straight - Crochety: protect big corporations at any cost or risk global control! lol

Looks like they already have you under control?

[Adam Blanchard]

for the record I never said that there wasn't a major climate change happening or that man had nothing to do with it nor that we don't need to get away from burning fossil fuels and making big business clean up it's act. I do however face the reality that unless we can find a reliable, renewable, and natural source of power then big business and people all over the world will continue to burn the fossil fuels.


I almost wish I hadn't made my last post tho... damn....

[Crochety Carpenter]

Aw c'mon Adam, don't be itimidated now! Deleted??? :D

No I am not for unrestricted polution from "big corperations" or anyone else. I am against an artificial crises being used to create a real one. Talk energy, let's take the Enlo Dam west of Oroville, WA. I grew up there. The dam was built on top of a natural waterfall sometime before 1950. There was never any salmon run beyond this natural fall but the ecofreeks are fighting reactivating the dam without a fish ladder to "restore" a salmon run that was never there. The back waters will not reach Canada but the river does. Neither Canada nore the First Nations want a salmon run so they won't sign on if a fish ladder is included. Fancy that, clean energy from a source that's already there and would economicly help a struggling town but some ecomorons have an agenda that has NOTHING to do with ecology.

[NCW_Woodnymph]

Funny how I once again fall into the middle of this arguement.:D Is it possible that both views are correct? Here is how I see it. It is an undeniable fact that the world has been through warming and cooling cycles in the past and even those of us who believe there were people around during those times don't believe that there were enough of them to cause it. It is also undeniable that by shear population, as well as by our lifestyles, we produce far more carbon than at any time in history. Therefore, I have no choice but to conclude that we are not "causing" global warming but that we are accelerating it. Of course we should do what we can to lessen the damage and ensure that our companies do the same but, in the end, I'm afraid the polar bears and the human race will either adapt or meet the fate met by many, many others before humans had any affect on anything.

[Crochety Carpenter]

:D That's my girl! So much smarter than her old man. :D ;)

[Shydog]

If today were my last day...can this global warming thing be corrected ...I think I'll just stay stoned...

Natural Resources will be depleted by overpopulation anyway.

Genetically modified food...I don't even have time to get into that starvation.

We are all going to die.

This is one big damn mess.

Supernatural intervention may be our only chance.

Everybody must get stoned.

[PEACE FROG]

The following is a short play written by Peace Frog. It is a conversation in a parallel world and makes as much sense as conversations in this world.


The blue man points and says," This tree will fall on your house.”
The red man says, “ What tree?”
The blue man says, “ The one leaning over your house.”
The red man says,” I don't believe you.”
The blue man says,” Come I'll show you.”
The red man says,” I can’t trust you. You hate me; you're jealous of my house and you hate your country.
The blue man says,” No really the roots are giving up and that is why the tree is leaning over your house".
The red man says," I've got smarter tree guys than you who will swear that it is not leaning. Plus, you walked under trees to get here so you are a hypocrite.
The blue man says, “You don’t understand I’m just concerned about you and the people inside”.
The red man says,” So you want to tell us how to live”?
The blue man says, “No, of coarse not, I’m just trying to help”.
The red man says,” well then, why don’t you just give the tree a big hug. You know you want to. That’s probably why it leans.”
The blue man says,” then you DO at least acknowledge that the tree IS leaning”.
The red man says,” That’s your spin, I never inferred nor implied any uh…… what about a Bill Clinton”?
The blue man says, “ Do you want to help me get the occupants of this house to safety or not?”
The red man says, “ Is anyone ever really safe…. Look we have alot invested in this house and I appreciate your concern. So what we’re going to do is, we will form a committee, do a study and legislate a bill or two. I’d say we could think about maybe clearing out the living room by oh… 2025.”
The blue man says,” But that may be too late.”
The red man says,” Too late for what?”
The blue man points and says,” This tree will fall on your house.”
The red man says,” What tree?”

[Crochety Carpenter]

:cheers:

[LIBRA]

That was perfect, absolutley perfect!!!!!! :hb:



Dont red and blue make purple and isnt purple a gay pride color?

[NCW_Woodnymph]

LOL!!! Froggy that was freaking awesome! I know an improve group who would love that.:D

[Shydog]

Thats it!

[Savon]

man i missed you posts frogg. ive been away from the forum to long.:hippie: