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Sunnydaydreams
02-13-2005, 11:26 AM
this is site will make you laugh! youll cry! and then youll wonder if this sites for real and i assure you, this guy is totally serious.

heres the site: http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/hippies.htm

peace & love

Pedata
02-13-2005, 12:02 PM
omg :eek: That was hilarious. I don't think it's for real, tho. It just gets more and more bizzare as you read. He believes there should be more rednecks? LOL. Archie Bunker (carroll O'Conner's All in the Family character) reminded him of his dad? lol lol.

I think he's totally making fun of the ultra conservatives.

I noticed some of the hippy pictures were Manson family members (including Charles).

I bet it's some hippy trying to show how stupid the conservatives can be.

Peace...

delta9
02-13-2005, 12:15 PM
Yes, it seemed very much a satire :)

Good link [++]

Sunnydaydreams
02-13-2005, 04:38 PM
thats what i thought for a while too but then i looked at this:

http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/Life%20Summary.htm

i think hes for real, or he has another life

peace & love

granolamomma
02-13-2005, 06:48 PM
What would you expect from a former KKK leader? I have a sick feeling it is a real site, but I could be wrong. :(

Pedata
02-13-2005, 07:14 PM
What would you expect from a former KKK leader? I have a sick feeling it is a real site, but I could be wrong. :(
You know, I kinda of got that feeling too after reading the page that sunnydays suggested. Ewwww.

Peace...
Cassandrapedata

delta9
02-13-2005, 07:17 PM
It seems like some sort of weird Biff or JeffK variant to me, really.

delta9
02-13-2005, 07:32 PM
Nevermind, it's all checking out actually. I assumed it was JeffK-like because the website was of such poor quality that it is laughable (to a webdesigner like myself).


Johnny Lee Clary INTERNATIONAL
P.O. Box 702631
Tulsa, OK 74170
...
Phone:
(918) 488-9646

The phone number listed is actually a Tulsa, Oklahoma (http://www.bennetyee.org/ucsd-pages/area.html) number, and quick searches (http://www.google.com/search?q=johnny+lee+clary) of this person all talk about Oklahoma. The website is made and maintained by Oh Wow! Graphics (http://ohwowgraphics.com/), which is anything but a good looking and well designed website (maybe back in 1995)... They used to be (http://ohwowgraphics.com/formerly.htm) a Christian oriented design shop called "psalmist.net" (no longer in existence). Can I stress enough how ugly and horrible these websites are?

These people are sad. :(

PEACE FROG
02-13-2005, 07:37 PM
The bumper stickers read Bush04', boycott france and I support our troops!!! Meet the man inside. :eek: :eek: :eek:

mountain_mama
02-13-2005, 07:53 PM
WOW! :eek:
What a sick site.

Pedata
02-13-2005, 07:54 PM
Can I stress enough how ugly and horrible these websites are?Yeah, that is a cheap site. Very very cheap. I had trouble with links, they were strange acting.

They must need the money real bad.

Peace,
Pedata

RockyJay
02-13-2005, 08:22 PM
I scrolled down read a few paragraphs there and left. Those people are disturbing.

The only KKK I want to know about is this KKK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kataastaasang_Kagalanggalangang_Katipunan_ng_mga_A nak_ng_Bayan).

BandAide
02-13-2005, 08:34 PM
Hmmm...

I'm not really that disturbed by this.

I feel genuinely sorry for this misguided man who has so much hatred. I read his biography and about his tormented life. He has so much anger and a need to direct it at someone, or a demographic of someone's.

He seems to feel that Christianity saved him from his former self and is grateful for that. For whatever reason, some people find this salvation and are unable to allow other people the freedom to find their own. They are incapable of it, really. He is angry with people who oppose him. He is angry with the hippies he met in southern California because they chose a different path than his. Because they chose not to work day jobs or live in a manner that he appreciated.

And his experiences might be legitimate.

But they don't speak for the demographic of people who share a common ideology.

I've seen what he's talking about. You frequent enough festivals and you see the kids who are just there for the drugs and will steal anything from anyone to buy a new hair wrap or screw over their best friend for a ride to West Virginia.

This DOES exist.

But I don't think there's much of it here, on this site.

And after you've been around the block a few times (I just keep going around and around the same damn block) you begin to recognize who's for real and brush off who isn't.

And there are a lot of awesome people who are accepting and kynd and good.

So, I am sorry that this guy is so confused and so prejudiced. I'm sorry that his experiences have been so bad and his life has been so tragic.

I hope he can sleep at night.

I hope that before he dies, he's able to stop hating and can begin accepting.

delta9
02-13-2005, 08:44 PM
I've seen what he's talking about. You frequent enough festivals and you see the kids who are just there for the drugs and will steal anything from anyone to buy a new hair wrap or screw over their best friend for a ride to West Virginia.

This DOES exist.
These people aren't hippies and you damn well know it. They're the demographic of drug users that give people like pedata, toman, treehugger, and myself a bad reputation. They just abuse and abuse and abuse. Selfish, they are. Karma will get them, in the end.

Peace

Pedata
02-13-2005, 08:59 PM
These people aren't hippies and you damn well know it. They're the demographic of drug users that give people like pedata, toman, treehugger, and myself a bad reputation. They just abuse and abuse and abuse. Selfish, they are. Karma will get them, in the end.

PeaceYes, he has picked the real monsters that messed it up for all us peaceful hippies. Someone that dysfunctional and extreme is only going to see the extreme people that happened to dress like hippies, and claim to be hippies.

As far as his Christian salvation claim- I think he's a big con man, had too much trouble with the KKK and chose to go after people through a fake spiritual claim. I could be wrong. He says he is saved but his "fruits" show differently to me. HE speaks of hate and killing. He took a small part of Ecclesiatics and tried to make it look like it means we're evil for not wanting a war.

It's almost like one person wrote his salvation testimony and another person wrote the rest.

Peace,
Cassandra

RockyJay
02-13-2005, 09:07 PM
Bandaide, you got me thinking about what you said. Thank you for opening my mind up a bit. And I daresay your husband is a very lucky man because you are beautiful and intelligent. You also have beautiful children :D


Karma will get them, in the end.

Very well put bro.

BandAide
02-13-2005, 09:10 PM
These people aren't hippies and you damn well know it. They're the demographic of drug users that give people like pedata, toman, treehugger, and myself a bad reputation. They just abuse and abuse and abuse. Selfish, they are. Karma will get them, in the end.

Peace


Right!

I DO damn well know it! But he doesn't. He can't tell the difference. That's what he's seen... so that's what he's writing about.

He's the same as all the red blooded Americans who hate EVERYONE with pale brown skin and silky black hair because of 9-1-1. They think they're ALL terrorists. There are so many around.

He can't differentiate.

delta9
02-13-2005, 09:14 PM
Well put, BandAide. Good angle.

Jay, I hope you didn't mean what I think you meant.

BandAide
02-13-2005, 09:22 PM
Bandaide, you got me thinking about what you said. Thank you for opening my mind up a bit. And I daresay your husband is a very lucky man because you are beautiful and intelligent. You also have beautiful children :D



Very well put bro.

I'm all pink in the cheeks right now!

"Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..."

RockyJay
02-13-2005, 09:26 PM
Jay, I hope you didn't mean what I think you meant.

What did you think I meant Delta?

delta9
02-13-2005, 09:32 PM
Glad we're on the same page.

Peace.

BandAide
02-13-2005, 09:39 PM
Glad we're on the same page.

Peace.

You mean about thinking I'm so beautiful and intelligent, right? :) :) :)

I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo kidding!

delta9
02-13-2005, 09:41 PM
You bring up a good point, though, Lady BandAide :)

The people here are wonderful!

RockyJay
02-13-2005, 09:43 PM
You mean about thinking I'm so beautiful and intelligent, right? :) :) :)

I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo kidding!

Don't worry, I think delta and I agree on that part :D

forrest
07-27-2008, 11:04 AM
this is site will make you laugh! youll cry! and then youll wonder if this sites for real and i assure you, this guy is totally serious.

heres the site: http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/hippies.htm

peace & love

Link was dead here it is! :)

http://web.archive.org/web/20040810104807/http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/hippies.htm

PEACE FROG
07-28-2008, 02:47 PM
Wow what an angry little man!