The Big "O" or is that the big "0"

[Crochety Carpenter]

After more than a year in office the Liar IN Chief has accomplished absolutely nothing. At least nothing positive.

In his blind focus on socialising medicine and frantically trying not to appear to be the wuss that he is by doing what's right in Afghanistan he continues to ignore the state of unemployment and the economy...except to make it worse.

The only consistant thing he has done is live up to his "Obama bin Lyin'" monacer.

Oh well, 9 more months till the congress undergoes a complete changeover... though I think Barack the Destroyer will implode before then... if we are lucky.

[LIBRA]

What in the hell do you think got us in this boat? Did this all just happen because Obama took office as soon as he stepped in the ecomony sunk, jobs were lost, really? How would you fix 8 years of shit in just 1 year? Id love to hear it?

Everyone seems to be banking on his failure so you can all jump up and down in victory, your right, were wrong, nany nany boo boo!!!!!

I wish a republican would have won office, so that we could blame the countries failures on him instead.

Personally since Obama taking office our small family owned plumbing and heating business is booming, people replacing heating equiptment left and right, tax credits for high eff equiptment have helped us, we are doing better then ever. It may not last, but nothing is certain.

I may not agree with everything Obama has done or is trying to pass, but I sure as hell am not going to blame him and his party for the downturn of our country. Freakin whiney ass repugs are enough to drive me to drink.

[Crochety Carpenter]

In the first year of Ronald Reagan he was well on the way to fixing most of the major problems that the peanut brain who preceded him caused and never once did you hear complaints about the "problems I inherited". Talk about whinney ass... that's Obama's answer to everything.

[LIBRA]

:vomit-smi

That pretty much sums it up for me.

There is so much that is wrong with the big picture, so many things to mend, 2 wars going on, its all one big mess!

[Pedata]

When Clinton took office many people expected overnight miracles. When the miracles didn't arrive they took to criticizing and name-calling.

Calling our president a liar and a wuss is grade-school mentality. Sometimes I wonder about the mentality of many people in this country. Like little kids they want it ALL and they want it NOW. And when they don't get it they start the name-calling.

Obama is doing his best. He's an intelligent man. He doesn't deserve to be called childish names.

-Cass

[PEACE FROG]

After more than a year in office the Liar IN Chief has accomplished absolutely nothing. At least nothing positive.

In his blind focus on socialising medicine and frantically trying not to appear to be the wuss that he is by doing what's right in Afghanistan he continues to ignore the state of unemployment and the economy...except to make it worse.

The only consistant thing he has done is live up to his "Obama bin Lyin'" monacer.

Oh well, 9 more months till the congress undergoes a complete changeover... though I think Barack the Destroyer will implode before then... if we are lucky.

Tummy Ache?

[Unkle_John]

One thing that no one has pointed out is that it's still the Republicans who still run everything. Obama could have gotten everything fixed in a timely fashion (I doubt a year to clean up 8 years of fuck-ups) but it's the Republicans who keep cock-blocking him.

The way I see it is that those old lions who still don't like the fact a man of color is in the pilot seat are trying to run him out the best way they can with out people screaming racism. What do they do? They start a fear campaign. They start spreading rumors of death panels and fines or imprisonment for people who can't afford insurance all so they can keep lining their pockets with cash from insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, banks, churches and other big companies. Just like when the economy started to tank, when a Republican was in office, they all had their hands so deep in the dub's pocket, they gave his privates a squeeze and said "Hey, Buddy, we helped you, now you help us".

Who ever was going to be the next president was going to have to clean up the mess. That old man McCain, might have done a decent job, but I doubt it would have taken a year, it probably would have been longer, my friends. Besides not having a very solid platform to stand on, he screwed up and picked the most illogical, most non-qualified person as his running mate because she was a woman and he wanted to pull the Hillary supporters away. Wow, that was a stupid move. About as stupid as the media going on and on about Howard Dean giving out his enthusiastic scream to the crowd.

Then to top everything off, the Republicans attempt to take over the Tea Party. The Tea Party was suppose to be a group for independents and people who were just fed up with government spending and neglecting the citizens of this country. But the problem is the other percent of the American citizens who don't take the time to read and look into things jumped on it and have attempted to make it into something it's not. What is also sad is that it's true intent is probably now lost because the Republicans thought "Oh the Democrats have the Hippies to help fight for them, we can have this Tea Party fight for us" and then they jumped all over it like white on rice. The creator even says he's sees it as insulting. And I'm sure when the idiots who vote which ever way the wind blows (and their friends, family, church, television tells them) they will vote in high numbers (many of them who probably voted for Obama because they didn't like how the Dub, who they voted for twice, was doing his job) will vote someone else in that they will not be happy with and it will keep going on until everything gets swept under the carpet an everything goes back to "normal" for them.

Makes you wonder why it's even worth it knowing that there are more idiots out there who vote than people who know how to make educated decisions and listen to their personal beliefs. Now, I'm not saying that voting for one or the other makes you dumb, I'm talking about the "fair weather voters". Most of them voted for change, but it can't happen because too many people don't want to take risks or lose money or their power.

Do I think AIG executives should have used the money to pay bonuses? Hell no. They knew they were going to do that and hoped the people didn't hear about it. Obama was upset too. AIG felt it as free money that they could do as they pleased. Then the other banks who wanted bailed out took the money from the government and then turned around a screwed their clients (the American citizens). They increased rates to suck what little money they had to survive then the govt has to turn around and help out the citizens because one problem let to another. That practice of bailing out companies started with the Dub, a Republican, not Obama.

The biggest joke out of all of this is not about Democrats and not about Republicans, it's the fact that we a bitching and complaining about a piece of paper that is woven with cotton and printed with green ink. We put such a value on such a little thing it's ridiculous how people go nuts over it. There are hundreds if not thousands of other things we should be concerned about in our lives and in the world. But I guess the two saying are true, "Money makes the world go 'round" and "Money is the root of all evil".

[LIBRA]

McCain, might have done a decent job, but I doubt it would have taken a year, it probably would have been longer, my friends.

haha nice! I even said it in my head with the hand gestures...."my friends" cracks me up everytime!

And if the republicans would stop wasting time "cock blocking" everything thats put on the table, things would be so much better off.

[PEACE FROG]

John is right.... and BRAVO!!!!!! I doubt that passengers on the Titanic worried much about whether the carpet matched the drapes.

[Crochety Carpenter]

Whew, great stuff! Substantive responses... for the most part.

A couple of things that piqued my intrest.

The comment on Palin's lack of experiance. Not that I necessarily want her for pres. but she was a mayor, and a governor who made major improvements in the opperation of her state. The O' had NEVER run ANYTHING and had served only something like 130 days as a senator, during most of which he was campaigning, and never sponsored, co-sponsored, or spoke addressing a single bill...now there's experiance for you. :hippie:

McCain? He was almost enough to make ME vote for the big Bamster.

Was that "cotton woven... green ink" thing a reference to the constitution? It's that piece of old cloth that makes us a government of laws instead of survival of the fittest and might makes right. While Might does indeed make right it is the restraint of the constitution that ensures that might stays on the side of right by reminding all that rights are "endowed by our creator" and not by our government. Our government was built on that moral authority and if it abandons it "we the people" have the moral authority,and obligation, to resist it with any force necessery.

In our community there is a discussion underway about a lighted cross on a hill. The opponents, like many here, fail to realise that it was the Christians who insisted that "Congress shall make no law establishing a religeon or restricting the free exersize thereof." Had they not the Church of England or the Catholic Church or the Luthern Church would have become the official church and all others, including disbelief itself, would have been illegal. True Christianity alone leaves belief to the individuall, excesses of various sects not withstanding. :hb:

[PEACE FROG]

After more than a year in office the Liar IN Chief has accomplished absolutely nothing. At least nothing positive.

In his blind focus on socialising medicine and frantically trying not to appear to be the wuss that he is by doing what's right in Afghanistan he continues to ignore the state of unemployment and the economy...except to make it worse.

The only consistant thing he has done is live up to his "Obama bin Lyin'" monacer.

Oh well, 9 more months till the congress undergoes a complete changeover... though I think Barack the Destroyer will implode before then... if we are lucky.

I had no idea that you were looking for a serious response from this dribble.

Well first of all, John was talking about money not the constitution. like the old SNL charater Emily Latella (Gilda Radner) who would go off on the the topic of "Truth in blending" Rather than "truth in lending", you attacked a point no one was trying to make. is this a republican thing? You guys do know the President wants "Health care reform"

I think that there is a terrible spirit of hatefull division and dessension over you people. It is like a small child kicking and screaming "I hate you, I hate you" because he is being pulled away from a birthday party where he is over indulging. Truth is we need a new paradigm in this country, the course that we are on is unsustainable, unrealistic and out of step with the global community.



Don't you think that it would be prudent to work towards equitable sollutions to the many problems facing our nation both domestically and globally? Your Tea bag people and other senior citizen scarring verbal lynch mobs serve no one.

[Crochety Carpenter]

I had no idea that you were looking for a serious response from this dribble.

Well first of all, John was talking about money not the constitution. like the old SNL charater Emily Latella (Gilda Radner) who would go off on the the topic of "Truth in blending" Rather than "truth in lending", you attacked a point no one was trying to make. is this a republican thing? You guys do know the President wants "Health care reform"


I think that there is a terrible spirit of hatefull division and dessension over you people. It is like a small child kicking and screaming "I hate you, I hate you" because he is being pulled away from a birthday party where he is over indulging. Truth is we need a new paradigm in this country, the course that we are on is unsustainable, unrealistic and out of step with the global community.


Don't you think that it would be prudent to work towards equitable sollutions to the many problems facing our nation both domestically and globally? Your Tea bag people and other senior citizen scarring verbal lynch mobs serve no one.


The money vs. constitution thing was an honest (admittedly stupid, but honest) mistake. As to "Health care reform" if he really wanted that it would simple to make insurance available accross state lines, to end frivolous law suits, and allow individualls the same deductability for premiums that apply to medical expenses to name just a few. The fact is that he wants to destroy the current system so he can impose socialised healthcare.

It is interesting that those who seek to change something always accuse those who seek to preserve something of bieng divisive. It is the ones pushing the agenda who have "a terrible spirit of hatefull division and dessension". What paradigm do you wish to change? The one that has made us the most prosperous and free nation in the world so we can be just another lackluster member of the "global community"? What is unsustainable is the current war on the means of productivity.

This statement is more of the code talk to say to any opposition "Sit down, shut up, and let us do what we want."

You have consistantly "canned" me in our various conversations. I speak for me and no one else and my views come from my own reading and research. Please don't show yourself to be narrow minded by parroting the blanket statements of people like you.

[PEACE FROG]

Okay # 1. I wish he would scrap the healthcare system. In my opinion he's not being bold enough. I think good health should be for everyone not just the wealthy. A right as a citizen. I wish they would socialize medicine.... we have socialized postal service, fire departments, police departments, UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY to name a few. No one bitches when thier neighbor's house is on fire and being put out. No one says AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! SOCIALISM!!! No one thinks anything about applying for a grant or any other sort of program. There are so many things and so many times we rely on our state and local government without a thought about it. But one thing we all know is that if you get sick YOU ARE FUCKED MY FRIEND! That to me is insane. Not political.

NEXT. What paradigm do I wish to change? Oh I don't know how about the whole exploitation of poor people thing? How about BLOOD FOR OIL? How about lies, deceit, manipulation and greed ? You expressed concern over becoming "LACKLUSTER" Wow! :D < I put that emote because I am laughing at you. What an interesting choice of words. How much "LUSTER you feeling when you look at the lifeless bodies of both soldier and citizen laying dead in a place we have no buisness being in in the first place? Or when you learn of children working 16 hour days for pennies so you can wear Nikes'. Or hear of the atrosities commited by our government in covert operations to manipulate the overthrow of another government chosen by the peoples that live there. Simply to " spread democracy". But they just end up expoited. Where is the luster?


As far as "code talk" I've never suggested that you sit down.


As far as canning you? Oh come on. everything you say has been the topic of some "HILLARIOUS" E-mail forward that someone feeling "CHEEKY" just had to send...... look at the content of the post you started this thread with. You just made all that shit up? No sir, not an original thought or quip in the intire steaming pile. And by the way, I am not a Democrat nor am I a Republican. I have no love for either side.


Truth be known my friend, I don't have much hope right now.

In a perfect world, YOU and ME, we would be farmers living at a small backwoods commune. We would wear homemade duds and even make our own furniture. We would have no differences because we cared about the same things. We would get high on home grown weed, and be drunk as monkees on homemade wine. We'd listen to the Doobie brothers and Steve Miller all day long and at night we would sit around a bonfire and talk about our children and grandchildren. And durring the day we would feel the sun on our faces and know that everything was OKAY. And since you and I were not afraid we were cool and shared with everyone we met. We showed them love and respect. And we had no fear, me and you.

[LIBRA]

Bravo, my friend!! I cant ever express how I feel like you do, but man I feel the same way. Speak for me anyday Frog :D

I got 4 messeges on my answering machine tonight one of which said passing this will be killing babies, pretty much, all gop. Ive been slammed with forwarded emails, not sure what they say I delete them instantly. My brother went on and on today about it, he is a hardcore republican. I just cant utter another word about it, especially the one place I can come to get away from it all. So if my comments dont blow you away, I dont really care.

I hope there is a spot for me around that bonfire!!

[unclejoe]

...submitted for your consideration.
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population of:
Wasilla, AK (2008 est) .,,.10,256 . . . San Francisco . , .16,636 people/sq mi
. .,, . Alaska (2009 est)....698,473. . .,,, . S.F. total . .. ,776,733
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Barack Obama as:

State Senator: 1997–2004
elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, from Illinois's 13th District,
which at that time spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park-Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn,
was reelected in 1998,
and reelected again in 2002.

U.S. Senator: 2005–2008
in the November 2004 general election, Obama won with 70% of the vote.
Legislation: Barack Obama has sponsored 121 bills since Jan 24, 2005.
Obama co-sponsored 506 bills during the same time period.

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a bit longer than 130 days, no?

oh, and wasn't there something recently where Mrs. Palin resigned under rather 'interesting' circumstances?

please.

[Crochety Carpenter]

ooooo.....tail between legs, slinking into corner.....

[LIBRA]

Sarcasm isnt your strong suit, is it. :kngt:

[forrest]

After more than a year in office the Liar IN Chief has accomplished absolutely nothing. At least nothing positive.

In his blind focus on socialising medicine and frantically trying not to appear to be the wuss that he is by doing what's right in Afghanistan he continues to ignore the state of unemployment and the economy...except to make it worse.

The only consistant thing he has done is live up to his "Obama bin Lyin'" monacer.

Oh well, 9 more months till the congress undergoes a complete changeover... though I think Barack the Destroyer will implode before then... if we are lucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMdFGkTlLAo

935 lies about Iraq War
Orchestrated Deception on the Path to War in Iraq False Pretenses
http://projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/?gclid=CIugzpLrmqECFQ2lagodShwfZg

http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/toptenlies.htm

http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/bushlies1.html