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pinkhighlighter
02-18-2005, 09:01 AM
Hi, recently got possession of some mushrooms. I was wondering if anyone could give some advice so my trip would be as pleasant as possible? Thanks

tooter_mcgee
02-18-2005, 09:23 AM
Hi, recently got possession of some mushrooms. I was wondering if anyone could give some advice so my trip would be as pleasant as possible? Thanks


have you done shrooms before? from the sound of it, im guessing not. i would strongly advise to not trip alone, or at least have someone with you even if they arent tripping. dont eat too many, although i cant advise you on how much is right for you, or anyone else for that matter but myself. also, start with a positive attitude... if you start out scared or nervous, you may be setting yourself up for a bad trip.

Delta... maybe you'll have some advice, this seems right up your alley! :)


:hippie:

Diana

Sacred Space
02-18-2005, 10:19 AM
Tea is the best! But make sure you boil the shrooms for a long time. Happy Trippin'!

kermit
02-18-2005, 10:44 AM
have you done shrooms before? from the sound of it, im guessing not. i would strongly advise to not trip alone, or at least have someone with you even if they arent tripping. dont eat too many, although i cant advise you on how much is right for you, or anyone else for that matter but myself. also, start with a positive attitude... if you start out scared or nervous, you may be setting yourself up for a bad trip.

Delta... maybe you'll have some advice, this seems right up your alley! :)


:hippie:

Diana

easy; I'll take it from here tooter. If you start to have a bad trip. I.E. too much Poisen from the boomers. drink a glass of milk, Any dary product will kill the effect instantly. I have heard of people eating them with pizza, but don't know the outcome.

nappydread
02-18-2005, 11:13 AM
I say you do your research on dosages etc. There is a comprehensive trip guide here (thanks D9!):
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2892136/an/0/page/0

and some more shroom newbie info here:

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives_info2.shtml

I say as long as you have a positive attitude and you're in a comfortable setting you're all set:)

peace

delta9
02-18-2005, 11:21 AM
Oh my god!

It is not a poison! A bad trip is a mental thing, it is not really dosage dependent.

Do not eat for four hours before you ingest, at least, otherwise it will take longer for the effects to hit you, and they will be lessened.

Do not trip alone for your first time, if you can help it - this can be asking for a bad trip.

How much should you dose? That depends on what kind they are. Don't know what kind they are? They are probably Psilocybe Cubensis. A good dosage for a first time is 1.5 to 2 grams. Some people will tell you to just go ahead and take the full 3 to 3.5 grams - how big are your balls? It is recommended you take a smaller dose and only reach a level 2, low level 3 trip for your first time to minimize the chances of you having a bad trip.

Also, have a trip sitter (they should be experienced with psychedelics) who knows how to talk you down if you start to head into a bad trip - if you can't arrange a trip sitter, get a tripping partner. If your sitter/partner is unfamiliar, make sure they at least read Erowid's Psychedelic Crisis FAQ (http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/faqs/psychedelic_crisis_faq.shtml). It is recommended that you read Erowid's Psychedelic Experience FAQ (http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/faqs/psychedelic_experience_faq.shtml). Read Erowid's Psilocybe Mushroom Basics (http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_basics.shtml) and also spend some time checking out Erowid's Psilocybe Mushroom Vault (http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/).

Know your mind, know your body, know your source.

Be safe, and just have fun.

Do not take psychedelics if you have family history of serious mental disorders such as schizophrenia, mania, et al.

You will likely think some crazy thoughts while on mushrooms - this is natural, and no matter how weird it gets, remember you WILL come down and be normal (make sure your Trip Sitter knows to remind you of this - but if you and they read the documentation I linked above, they will know to do so).

In the end, just accept whatever comes your way and have a good time. You will likely be fine. I will answer any further questions you have after you read up on it.

BandAide
02-18-2005, 12:51 PM
Delta, I would like to take this opportunity to commend you for being a constant source of reason.

You impress me.

kermit
02-18-2005, 12:54 PM
Delta, I would like to take this opportunity to commend you for being a constant source of reason.

You impress me.

I agree!
But are you sure it's not a poisen?

delta9
02-18-2005, 05:55 PM
Delta, I would like to take this opportunity to commend you for being a constant source of reason.

You impress me.
Thank you, BandAide :) Your praise and support is very touching :)... Again, though, I am but distilling information to those that need it and hopefully helping someone avoid a bad experience!

I agree!
But are you sure it's not a poisen?
What do you define as a poison? Dictionary.Com calls a poison (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=poison):
# A substance that causes injury, illness, or death, especially by chemical means.
# Something destructive or fatal.
Unless you have a preexisting mental condition such as schizophrenia, mania, etc, there is next to NO chance Psilocybin will cause injury. Illness will only occur if you are allergic (very small chance, I believe it is less than 1%) - this is another reason to start with a low dose and work your way up. In any event, it is highly unlikely death will occur. The amount of mushrooms you have to eat in order to die is about equal to your body weight, if not much greater - in any case, this is several thousands of times above the normal dose for the desired effects; hell, it's thousands of times greater than a high dose that most people can handle! Can you injure yourself, catch a cold, or even do something stupid and die while ON mushrooms? Yeah, but it's not because of the mushrooms, and this is why it is always recommended you have a trip sitter and/or trip partner.

This is, of course, as long as they are actually Psilocybe mushrooms... But we're assuming these have been "aquired" from someone who either grew them or is used to selling them, and so they actually are Psilocybe mushrooms.

It's kind of like smoking enough cannabis to kill yourself - you pretty much can't physically do it. It takes a while to chomp down a few grams of dried mushrooms that don't really taste that great... 5 grams (dried) is a pretty hefty dose (not recommended for the inexperienced by any means) and 5 grams is a very small portion of your body weight. if you way 50 kilograms (just over 100 pounds), 5 grams is 1 / 10000 of your body weight... Lets say it takes you 10 minutes to eat 5 grams dried, if you eat another 5 grams right after, that's another 10 minutes and the effects have started to become noticeable. Say you somehow manage to eat ANOTHER 5 grams, even though you've likely lost interest by now in anything except staring at the pretty scenery, that's another 10 minutes, you're now at T:30 minutes and you have ingested 15 grams and now things are starting to get weird. Keep going 5 grams every ten minutes for another 30 minutes, you reach T:60 minutes and 30 grams dosed - this is but 1 / 1700 of your body weight and now things are definately pretty damn weird. Again, 5 grams is a hefty dose for most people. This is six times a hefty dose... Assuming you are still able to move, I'd really like to see you choke down some MORE mushrooms - keeping in mind you're already in ONE HELL OF A RIDE! And so it goes; you've still got *plenty* of wiggle room before you're even NEARING deadly amounts!

So a poison? I think not.

Dangerous to operate heavy machinery on? Yeah, but no one is suggesting you do that :p

tooter_mcgee
02-18-2005, 06:04 PM
as i said in my post, i knew this would be up your alley delta! im sure pinkhighlighter is greatful for your knowledge as far as this subject is concerned. you're alot of help to everyone :)

:hippie:

Diana

kermit
02-19-2005, 06:31 PM
Assuming you are still able to move, I'd really like to see you choke down some MORE mushrooms - keeping in mind you're already in ONE HELL OF A RIDE! And so it goes :cheers:

You make me so happy; I learn, I laugh, I wonder, I love reading what you wright. ;)

pinkhighlighter
02-20-2005, 06:12 AM
My friends made jam out of the mushroom. Recently found a trip sitter who I trust. Only a few days away from trying it, plan to do it on the beach. Thanks fur the info. :)

delta9
02-20-2005, 02:27 PM
You're welcome, good luck, and have fun! :)

kermit
02-20-2005, 06:11 PM
My friends made jam out of the mushroom. Recently found a trip sitter who I trust. Only a few days away from trying it, plan to do it on the beach. Thanks fur the info. :)

Oo the beach good idea!!!!

peach_blossom
02-21-2005, 05:32 AM
plan to do it on the beach.

So that's why we're going to the beach this weekend or is this just an extra? Hey hey hey!

freakyfairy
02-22-2005, 05:59 AM
Delta, I would like to take this opportunity to commend you for being a constant source of reason.

You impress me. his knowledge is truely usuful and impressive... i know he's helped me out on a few occasions... he's our resident wise man.....
:hippie: