Trying Salvia!

[Evil Hippie]

Hey, well I talked my mom into letting me order some salvia off the net! Can you believe it? I told her it was legal and had relaxing properties which might help a migraine...but really I just wanna hallucinate off it! haha.
Well anyway, the best deal I found was 1 gram of the 5x extract for 11 bucks ( if anyone knows where I can get a better deal let me know). Is this enough to to get the desired effects (hallucinations)? Im thinking it will be for me because im very sensitive to stuff like that and I even hallucinate off weed. Would it help if I mixed some salvia with weed? Well thanks... :)


PS: Does anyone know of a good website with cheap pipes?

[delta9]

Beerweed fool.

Sorry. It just seems you're out for a fun time, and you're going to ruin salvia for the rest of us like that. First off, you need to be completely honest about it with your mother. Otherwise, I hope you have a bad trip and it scares the shit out of you.

Asking dosage advice is generally bad form, as differing body chemistries can lead to bad bad things... like death. Of course, it applies a lot more to pharmies and unknown/poisonous substances, but still... You should get your dosage information from static resources such as erowid's salvia vault (http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml) and read other people's experiences (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Salvia_divinorum.shtml).

That said, use a torch lighter, put it on top of marijuana, hold your hits as long as possible, and you'll likely be fading out by your third or so hit.

Salvia is not about getting high or having fun - no more than daturra is. It's just going to end up getting scheduled because of people using it irresponsibly and for all the wrong reasons. :(

Sorry... In a weird mood, but merry christmas, and I hope it opens your eyes.

[Evil Hippie]

I ordered some of the 10x extract, should be here in several days. You're right, I shouldnt do this just to get "high", and im not. I just sounded that way because I was so excited that I was actually getting some. I really hope I learn something from this experience and that it opens my eyes like you said. Im really more mature about this stuff than I sound. Ive had some pretty cool experiences without the use of drugs, Ive had obes, ive met my spirit guide in several dreams, im experienced with self hypnosis, ive done past life regressions, and some other stuff that i wont mention because nobody would believe me anyway. :)
But my point is that i think im prepared to handel the effects of salvia.

[delta9]

Well, good luck. I do apologize, but one must be skeptical and careful with these things... There aren't many entheogens that are legal, and if a bunch of kids (no offense, I'm only barely not a kid anymore, myself :P) start chasing them down for a "high", undoubtably many of them are going to be irresponsible and end up hurting themselves and others, and then you know what will happen? The anti-drug people, both in and out of government, are going to work to get it scheduled and then those of us that use it the right way and for the right reasons will have to do so illegally or not at all...

Thus why I said "ruin it for the rest of us". So, as with anything, be safe, be smart, be careful, and have fun. :)

[Evil Hippie]

Its ok, Im excited for it to come. Im hoping for a mind blowing experience. Since im getting 10x extract I think im just going to put a little bit on some weed, I mean just a tincy sprinkle, and then wait for a while before doing more, just to make sure I dont do too much.

[Evil Hippie]

My salvia came today. I tried putting a tiny sprinkle on some weed and had two hits of that. Ive realised that i need more salvia than just a sprinkle. Tonight i will increase the dose and let you know. The only hallucinations Ive had are some mild color distortions.

[delta9]

Like I said... Use a torch lighter (for higher heat) or HOLD THE FLAME OVER THE SALIVA THE WHOLE TIME (which is the OPPOSITE of what you want to do with marijuana), inhale deeply (it should be fairly smooth), and hold it in your lungs as long as possible.

Use enough for two to four hits (your sprinkle should have given you a good idea of just how much), and make sure you're sitting or laying down with your back properly supported!!! Sometimes it takes a while for people to "break through" with salvia, but after you do, it comes easily after that.

[Evil Hippie]

Tonight im not mixing any marijuana with the salvia. I want to experience the effects of salvia on its own. The last time it was hard to tell what was the weed and what was the salvia. Like I said I just experienced very mild halucinations, like colors becoming brighter or darker, and sometimes when I stared at something it would get all fuzzy. There were a couple times that a saw an image when I closed my eyes. And I felt like My body was intaking energy, pretty weird. Did you mean load enough for two to four hits into the bowl, or take two to four hits seperately?

[delta9]

Well, as I said earlier, you really should check the static resources for dosage advice. Everyone's body is a bit different... but the first time I broke through, I took four large hits, held them as long as I could, and exhaled. I was already fading out by the third... Holding the flame on the salvia helps because the activation tempurature is higher than with marijuana. This will release more of the active ingredient of salvia quicker...

If you have the leaf as well as the extract, yes? If so... To get the full effect of the salvia alone... I'd pack a bit of the leaf on the bottom of the bowl, and a little bit of the extract on top... judge the amounts for two would-be-hits from some marijuana of the leaf, and two would be hits judging by the amount that burned from your previous experiment.... So four hits in total, hold them as long as possible, and good luck. Be safe, be smart, set and setting. Be prepared... And have fun and an enlightening experience ;).

[Evil Hippie]

Heres how it went.
I was talking to my cousin Destiny on msn. She had to leave for a minute to smoke. I already had my pipe packed full with salvia extract, so I took one large hit. After I exhaled it I lied down on my bed. Its hard to describe what happend next because ive never experienced anything like it. The best way to put it is that I was completely detached from this reality. Not from my room, not from my body, from this reality. I was kind of observing it. I wasnt myself, I was something else. Then I sort of peeked back into this reality, just enough to remember who I was, I felt like I was being pulled away but I fought it and started screaming IM TYLER IM TYLER IM TYLER. After screaming and fighting it all of my memories came back and I knew who I was. I still felt like I was being pulled for a few minutes. I think if I would have given in to it I could have left for good, Im not sure if I could have made it back. Im not sure I would have wanted to come back.

[delta9]

That's a bit drastic. But if it's telling you not now, then it means not now.

[Evil Hippie]

Looking back on it now I think I overeacted. Ive just never felt such detachment before. I now wish I would have let go instead of fighting it. Im going to wait before trying it again, but next time Ill try not to resist it as much, and see where it takes me.

[delta9]

Yeah, just remember that's it's not permanent... People can and do take thousands of hits of acid at once, they totally disappear, but they always come back :).

It's a common thought-loop to think you're not ever going to come down. this is one reason it's always good to have an experienced sitter with you.

[Sparky]

Wow, that would freak me out. I want to try that and see what happens, I just have to find a way to get some! But that's crazy dude.

[dazednconfuzed420]

I have been wanting to try salvia for a while now, and I was just wondering if it could show up as anything on a drug test?

[mamasharones]

use a torch light definitely I always find that if you smoke it out of a bong it works better. You have to hold it in for a good 30 seconds. Make sure to keep the lighter on it. You'll only need one hit if you do it right

PLEASE take it seriously. I know people that trip on mushrooms all the time and don't freak out but then they take a hit of salvia and they do freak. It's not like tripping on acid or shrooms. You lose all concept of being. You don't know what's living. it's like a different demension so it's serious and you might freak your mom out if something happens so please it's not a joke!

[delta9]

Salvia is known as an "ego shredder". I've heard of people who used to work with LSD (laying and carrying crystal) that when they can't get crystal to have ego death, they like shrooms + salvia, which 'gets me there and back again quickly and efficiently'.

You should respect salvia... or at least be scared. Lady Salvia will bite you if you mistreat her.